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April 25, 2022 5:36 pm at 5:36 pm #2079781
With Elon closing in on acquiring all of twitter, how will Democrats deal with losing their biggest and most powerful propaganda weapon? What will they do the next time there is a “Hunter Biden Laptop” story?April 25, 2022 5:56 pm at 5:56 pm #2079811Sam KleinParticipant
Trump will be back in business on Twitter and the Democratic party will hate itApril 25, 2022 6:25 pm at 6:25 pm #2079814jackkParticipant
America will suffer because of it.
But that is what we have come to expect from somebody who became 293 billion dollars richer due to the pandemic and hasn’t paid taxes on it.April 25, 2022 9:06 pm at 9:06 pm #2079839CTLAWYERParticipant
I have never used Twitter….
Never sent or received a tweet
Somehow a platform for twits never sounded appealing to me. It’s ownership doesn’t matter much to meApril 25, 2022 10:02 pm at 10:02 pm #2079854Politically IncorrectParticipant
The Democrats will turn to TikTok…April 25, 2022 10:03 pm at 10:03 pm #2079870Dr. PepperParticipant
Can you please explain why America will suffer because of it? I’m not a fan of social media so I honestly have no idea and I’m genuinely curious.
Also, according to CNN, Elon Musk stated that he’s going to pay around $11 Billion in Federal taxes for 2021. Can you please let me know where you got your number from?
ThanksApril 25, 2022 10:20 pm at 10:20 pm #2079883
Within an hour of the Twitter Board announcing they had accepted Musk’s offer, the Trumpkopf announced he would not return to Twitter and will post on his own new social media site whose name he couldn’t remember at his motzi shabbos rally in Ohio (He finally referenced it as “Truth Central” which is not its name). While Twitter has made some questionable decisions on postings (aka allowing Iran leadership to continue to threaten EY) it is still the most useful and functional political blog as compared with the garbage on right-wing sites such as Gab, Gettr, etc. Trump himself has only posted ONCE on his own new Twitter alternative site.April 25, 2022 10:25 pm at 10:25 pm #2079886
ya know I used to think your obsession with trump and his every move was funny. Then it was entertaining, then it got kind of sad. After everyone but you and jackk forgot about him and you continue to follow him every move it seemed a bit worrisome. I think it is closing in on pathetic. And yes, I am aware that my opinion is irrelevant, but since you continue to report regularly on his minute to minute in a public forum, ive decided im entitled to voice my opinion.April 26, 2022 10:24 am at 10:24 am #2079957
Ctlawyer While I applaud your not involving yourself, and wasting your time with twitter, the fact of the matter is that is serves as the “public town square”. The censors @twitter prevented Bidens laptop story from getting out.April 26, 2022 3:40 pm at 3:40 pm #2079962Amil ZolaParticipant
I don’t use twitter or instagram. Everyone is complaining about Twitter silencing individual expression. YWN and this place also censor individuals expression but none here are complaining. I don’t get it. But then I don’t take this venue as seriously as some do.April 26, 2022 4:08 pm at 4:08 pm #2079982DovidBTParticipant
With Elon closing in on acquiring all of twitter, how will Democrats deal with losing their biggest and most powerful propaganda weapon?
They’ll attempt to “cancel” Twitter. The leftist media will ignore it, ridicule anyone who uses it, and use all their influence to get people to use a different place for expressing their deranged viewpoints.April 26, 2022 4:08 pm at 4:08 pm #2079988lakewhutParticipant
Jackk the communist doesn’t like someone who’s ahead pf him. This is a win for free speech and dems hate the idea of free speech.April 26, 2022 4:08 pm at 4:08 pm #2079990Amil ZolaParticipant
Will the Coffee Room condemn Musk if he lets the antisemites run free on Twitter?April 26, 2022 4:09 pm at 4:09 pm #2080033
Syag: Notice that I was responding to Sammy Klein who somehow linked Musk’s takeover to a return by Trump to the platform. But otherwise, you are 100 percent correct in re my “obsession” with Trump but why devalue your opinion as irrelevant. Indeed, among the Trump acolytes, you distinguish yourself with frequently insightful points supported by factoids and with a degree of humor, something sorely lacking among the run-of-the-mill MAGAs.April 26, 2022 4:10 pm at 4:10 pm #2080054
Syag: On a serious note, it would be political malpractice for any Dem to “forget” about Trump since he has become the central focus of the Republican party. Even historically “normal” Republicans have now reached the point where they are obligated to assess every word/action in terms of a Trump response. There is no longer any principled approach to policy or voting…just whether or not it will please Trump. I wish more were obsessed with this evolution in our political system and respond as they see appropriate. While Biden is clearly a disappointment to many of us, we truly believe (and thus our “obsession”) that another 4 years of Trump would be an existential issue for our democracy.April 26, 2022 4:11 pm at 4:11 pm #2080078☕️coffee addictParticipant
Worse has been said by dictators and they weren’t removed
People are complaining about the hypocrisyApril 26, 2022 4:11 pm at 4:11 pm #2080076OrangeCountyChapperParticipant
There are sensible FCC-regulated limits on cross-ownership by a single entity of a newspaper and television or radio broadcast station operating in the same local market. Social media companies that have overwhelming national coverage like Twitter and Facebook/Instagram should be subjected to similar regulation, unless their lobbyists/PACs are more powerful than the old media ever were, or they get displaced by the next new toy first.
I’d like to think Musk will mitigate pressure for regulation by having a truly non-partisan approach to governance. Kind of like the moderation we have here (cough, cough) ha ha.April 26, 2022 4:33 pm at 4:33 pm #2080100
GH – Guess my not reading his post sent me barking up the wrong tree
🙂April 26, 2022 4:33 pm at 4:33 pm #2080101
“Will the Coffee Room condemn Musk if he lets the antisemites run free on Twitter?”
When only the anti semites are allowed to run free on twitter it is a problem. When everyone is allowed to run free there is nothing to complain about.
My fervent wish is that nobody with any sense of religious morals visits twitter, or any other sight affording them to exposure of things not spiritually healthy, and if they can’t help themselves, then they shouldn’t bring it here.April 26, 2022 4:41 pm at 4:41 pm #2080103
GH – regarding your serious note:
*No, he is not central to anything
*No, dems seem to be, once again, revolving their life and moral standards around keeping trump out of office the wrong way since they have no faith they can do it the right way. But I don’t see any dems who post here or otherwhere having a very accurate or real read of what we are thinking.
*I do NOT want trump back in office, but there are few things worse than having biden continue. You think trump would be an existential threat to our democracy… hmm. so is this democracy now? As much as I cannot afford to go to work (gas and car prices) and I cannot afford not to (everything else prices) but the media cancelations and manipulations/censorship all things biden = good stuff scares me the most. (Please don’t tell me that you don’t think that’s real)
* you say “while biden is clearly a disappointment to many of us” fun fact- I have heard exactly nobody besides you admit that. Trumpers always said that they knew trump was a moron but liked his policy. Biden people still defend him from the rooftops. No willingness to even SEE the problems let alone squeak out a drop of disappointment (look at how some very intelligent people have had the blindness to say that 21 dangerous people being caught at the border was actually an accomplishment! Even though millions of pounds of fentanyl, gang bangers and rapists got the green light by those same ‘accomplishers’. blows. my. mind.) Nope, you are it.April 26, 2022 4:43 pm at 4:43 pm #2080107
OCC: Great point on the ill-fated and obsolete FCC guidelines on media holdings/cross-ownership. As we know, those guidelines have proven almost possible to apply in terms of defining the “relevant products” and “relevant markets” (in antitrust jargon) as new modes of communications seem to evolve quicker than economists can categorize them. Does Twitter compete with just other social media
sites or do we throw in computer gaming which now incorporate real time blogging. How about traditional news (Fox, NYT, WSJ and even “The Forward”, which now have online presence and blogging. And of course where do interactive podcasts fit in.
My only point is that no Federal judge would side with the FCC or DOJ/FTC if they tried to block the Musk takeover of Twitter on some vague “market power” issue.April 26, 2022 4:51 pm at 4:51 pm #2080115
Syag: There is a lot of disappointment in Biden among Dems….part of it is simply his seeming “tin ear” on the political ramifications of his decisions and the glacial pace of those decisions. Even w/o considering Ukraine, key nominations were left in limbo while they tried to find a compromise candidate between party centrists and progressives. Too much focus on being the “first” ethnic, gender etc. nominee for a particular agency, failure to anticipate the known outcome of Manchin opposition to BBB etc. etc. Lots of good ideas and proposals but lots of self-inflicted damage by really poor politics.April 26, 2022 5:07 pm at 5:07 pm #2080120
I hear you. I am saying that they will not admit to it. I have NEVER heard anyone but you say that. Listen to the crazy things people are writing. They don’t say that some things are a problem but it’s still wonderful. They don’t even ignore the problems and say it’s still wonderful. They actually list the problems as accomplishments, pretend things never were said or happened etc. I am not here to call out what is fake and what is not, my claim is that dems are NOT listing any disappointments. Zero. They are still living in trumps head, thinking that if they acknowledge any of the real damage, someone may put donald back in office. So they don’t budge. Just listen to the crazy way they spew full sentences of insults towards someone who isn’t even in office anymore anytime Biden is called out. It’s not normal.April 26, 2022 6:06 pm at 6:06 pm #2080124
“Just listen to the crazy way they spew full sentences of insults towards someone who isn’t even in office anymore…”
Syag: Respectfully, thats my point. The reality is that for a growing number of Republican elected officials he IS still in office in the sense that they have lost virtually any ability to independently assess and decide issues and have become submissive sycophants seeking to please him w/o regard to substantive policy ramifications. Its not just the crazies like MTG but even the Republican leader (McCarthy) twisting himself into a lying pretzel denying he said what we hear him on tape saying about Trump’s behavior on 1/6. The Democratic opposition is not the Republican party defined by conservative principles of smaller government, less spending and socially conservative values…its whatever Trump wants to hear on a particular day to feed his insatiable ego.April 26, 2022 6:35 pm at 6:35 pm #2080135
And I’m saying that I know you think that, but I disagree. The dem narrative of what Republicans are thinking is about as authentic as my view of kollel life was when I was in bnei akiva.April 26, 2022 6:35 pm at 6:35 pm #2080136
And vice versaApril 26, 2022 7:25 pm at 7:25 pm #2080159CTLAWYERParticipant
Guess it doesn’t serve as the public town square in my town.
I polled fellow active members of town government and the party Town Committees. None have active accounts. Some used it in the past but gave up on it because of overload.
Much more going on in the 40 or so town specific Facebook groups. Don’t know many using Instagram, I gave up my account 3 years ago. I used it to follow friends, never posted. The under 25 crowd seems to like Tik Tok, but I have never viewed it, and probably won’t.
Now that government meetings and public hearings in our town are live, I am seeing loads of townspeople I haven’t seen for 2 years. Nothing like sitting over a cup of coffee and discussing the local government, schools, budget, etcApril 26, 2022 11:56 pm at 11:56 pm #2080167ujmParticipant
OCC: The government can regulate content and ownership of broadcast media since they utilize public airwaves, which is a public owned resource. The government constitutionally cannot regulate the content or ownership of digital media, social media or print media unless the First Amendment is repealed.April 26, 2022 11:57 pm at 11:57 pm #2080169DovidBTParticipant
Guess it doesn’t serve as the public town square in my town.
I don’t have a Twitter account. Once in a while I’ll read a “tweet” that’s referenced in a news article.
The issue is whether Twitter has a significant effect on national/state/local elections or governmental decision making, directly or indirectly.April 26, 2022 11:57 pm at 11:57 pm #2080171
Ctlawyer that is all good and fine, however the fact of the matter is that around 77 million Americans use Twitter.April 27, 2022 12:02 am at 12:02 am #2080178amomParticipant
GH and Syag:
We have to differentiate between political figures and the average american. The average republican is over Trump. They appreciated his policies while he was in office but don’t think about him much. The average democrat is obsessed with Trump (don’t know why, GH help me on this)
Political figures are obsessed with Trump on both sides. Democrats want to show how bad he was compared to Biden, how much worse things would have been and how their rival is just like Trump. Republican political figures- some just try not to alienate Trumps base and some are true hard Trump fans.April 27, 2022 7:05 am at 7:05 am #2080255☕️coffee addictParticipant
Ywn’s status has Elon musk showing that truth social (for those that don’t know, it’s the platform started by Trump) beating both Twitted and TikTokApril 27, 2022 10:02 am at 10:02 am #2080289jackkParticipant
“In our private chat with only Members, several are saying the only way to save our Republic is for Trump to call for Marshall law,” Greene texted Meadows, misspelling the word “martial.” “I don’t know on those things. I just wanted you to tell him. They stole this election. We all know. They will destroy our country next. Please tell him to declassify as much as possible so we can go after Biden and anyone else!”
This text was written on January 17th . Eleven days after January 6th.
Republicans are traitors.April 27, 2022 10:31 am at 10:31 am #2080342
jackk – i think you posted that in the wrong thread
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