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February 13, 2014 3:34 pm at 3:34 pm #612128BoruchSchwartzParticipant
They know how to daven properly
February 13, 2014 3:41 pm at 3:41 pm #1144776HaLeiViParticipantIs that the byline on their website?
February 13, 2014 3:47 pm at 3:47 pm #1144777WIYMemberYup.
February 13, 2014 3:58 pm at 3:58 pm #1144778dafyomi2711MemberIf all Klal Yisroel would daven the way you are supposed to I am convinced Mosiach will come!
February 13, 2014 4:17 pm at 4:17 pm #1144779BoruchSchwartzParticipantso then let’s pack all jews into emunas yisroel
February 13, 2014 5:04 pm at 5:04 pm #1144780dafyomi2711Memberhalevi amen
February 13, 2014 6:30 pm at 6:30 pm #1144781WIYMemberBoruch
Thats silly, rather every shul and kehilla should remain where they are and should just daven the same way that emunas davens.
February 13, 2014 8:30 pm at 8:30 pm #1144782Little FroggieMemberI also know how to daven properly. I just don’t seem…
February 13, 2014 8:36 pm at 8:36 pm #1144783Torah613TorahParticipantDoes properly = long?
February 13, 2014 8:54 pm at 8:54 pm #1144784LogicianParticipantThey’re at least closely related.
February 13, 2014 9:00 pm at 9:00 pm #1144785BoruchSchwartzParticipant@ Torah613
yes
February 13, 2014 11:10 pm at 11:10 pm #1144786HaLeiViParticipantSo, the longer the properlier? Tefilla is not necessarily a Mussar Seder. The Maharal, in Nesiv Ha’avoda Perek 6 has this to say on this topic:
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February 14, 2014 4:39 am at 4:39 am #1144787LogicianParticipantSaying that length is related to being proper does not mean the longer the better.
How long is too long ? If I showed you that in Halacha a half hour is considered normal/average for weekday pesuka d’zimra, what would you say ?
February 14, 2014 7:07 pm at 7:07 pm #1144788funnyboneParticipantI’m okay with a discussion about davening…I’m uncomfortable that this thread is discussing a particular shul.
February 16, 2014 2:13 am at 2:13 am #1144789LogicianParticipantWhat’s wrong with praising the davening in a particular shul ?
And if you’re problem is with the hilchos lashon hora pertaining to discussing individual people/places/etc because you’re inviting negative comments as well, well then you’ve shut down a large percentage of the threads here.
February 16, 2014 3:55 pm at 3:55 pm #1144790HaLeiViParticipantIt’s one thing to point out a Maaleh that you like, or that you think someone or someplace excells in. It is quite another to say that this is the place that Davens appropriately. Many other Kehilos’ Minhagim were established by leading Gedolim and by Baalei Ruach Hakodesh. Some of them purposely did not want the Tefilla to be stretched, as the Maharal explained.
Some give from their mind, some from their hearts, some from their attitudes, and some from their time.
February 16, 2014 4:33 pm at 4:33 pm #1144791LogicianParticipantDid you see in the OP that other places are doing something wrong ? Just something special there.
No question about it, for the average person (who don’t know from no maharal), davening longer than regular shows one thing, just like davening shorter than average usually means something else.
February 16, 2014 4:47 pm at 4:47 pm #1144792HaLeiViParticipantFor the OP I wrote my first comment. The attitude that grew from that is what bothered FunnyBone, and is what I came to diffuse. Your second point is valid.
February 16, 2014 8:42 pm at 8:42 pm #1144793ItcheSrulikMemberHaLeivi: The maharal you cite was talking about two negative side affects of kavana and specifies at the end that he is not talking about someone being ???? ???????. In other words, he isn’t saying not to daven b’arichus, he’s telling us how to do so. Of course no one paskens from the nesivos olam and plenty of sects (dor shvi’i lubavitch for one) make a point of davening relatively quickly.
February 16, 2014 9:04 pm at 9:04 pm #1144794HaLeiViParticipantNo. He is actually talking about the positive type of Maarich Betifilaso.
April 3, 2016 1:27 am at 1:27 am #1144795☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantI didn’t daven in Emunas Yisroel today.
April 3, 2016 2:34 am at 2:34 am #1144796YesOrNoParticipantI didn’t either…it was out of the Tchum.
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