October 21, 2009 8:00 pm at 8:00 pm #590635HaveAnOpinionMember
Is leaving high school without a diploma to go to eretz yisroel to learn a good idea?October 21, 2009 8:03 pm at 8:03 pm #663204squeakParticipant
I see two questions here.October 21, 2009 8:03 pm at 8:03 pm #663205artchillParticipant
If you plan on getting a job in the real world: NOOctober 21, 2009 8:07 pm at 8:07 pm #663206
Talmud Torah Kneged Kulam.October 21, 2009 8:09 pm at 8:09 pm #663208
Do you actually *know* someone who is considering this? Or is this just a theoretical question?
EDITEDOctober 21, 2009 8:11 pm at 8:11 pm #663209
Do you *really* think it’s universally (or even generally) a good idea to drop out of high school to learn in Israel?
EDITEDOctober 21, 2009 8:15 pm at 8:15 pm #663210sammygolMember
You must have some sort of a job, enabling you to make a living. Why are you so unequivocal in advocating for an unknown young boy, who has no means of making a living after a stint in Beis Midrash or Kollel, to go learn without obtaining a high school diploma first? Unless this theoretical young man will choose to dwell in E”Y and learn forever, he will get married, somewhere in the USA, and will need to support a family. Are YOU going to carry the responsibility for feeding his children if he were to follow your advice?October 21, 2009 8:15 pm at 8:15 pm #663211haifagirlParticipant
Maybe. It depends on the person and the situation.
How mature is this individual?
Has he/she been to Israel before? Can he/she handle the culture shock?
What kind of support system is in place? Is the whole family going? Or are there relatives (aunts/uncles) there?
Why does this person want to leave HS early? Trying to escape problems? The school situation has changed for the worse? Just wants to go to Israel?
What are the future plans? How will not having a diploma affect those plans? Or is he/she intending to get a GED?
There are probably several more questions that would need to be asked to determine what’s right for each person.
I don’t think a one-word answer is appropriate.October 21, 2009 8:17 pm at 8:17 pm #663212
By the way, just to clarify…
… are we talking about someone who is also learning in high school? Or is this someone who is NOT learning in high school?
The WolfOctober 21, 2009 8:21 pm at 8:21 pm #663213
The OP solicited a general opinion, and it was provided (in general accordance with the Torah authorities previously quoted on these very boards.)October 21, 2009 8:24 pm at 8:24 pm #663214HaveAnOpinionMember
Someone who is NOT learning in high schoolOctober 21, 2009 8:25 pm at 8:25 pm #663215
BINGO!October 21, 2009 8:28 pm at 8:28 pm #663216haifagirlParticipant
If the person is not learning in HS, what will cause him/her to learn in EY?October 21, 2009 8:31 pm at 8:31 pm #663217
Oh, please! You didn’t know that when you said “Yes.”
No one on these boards can give you an answer to that question. You *really* need to speak it over with the teenager, his parents and a rav who knows the family well.
And, provisions should be made for him to get a high school diploma (or GED) at some point anyway.
The WolfOctober 21, 2009 9:27 pm at 9:27 pm #663218starwolfMember
–without knowing the individual’s background–(religious, secular, chassidic, dati leumi, hareidi)
–without knowing the individual’s financial situation–
–without knowing the individual’s family situation (what his parents might have to say in the matter)–
–without even knowing anything about the individual’s health—-
we get an answer such as “Yes. Talmud Torah Kneged Kulam. “
Perhaps the original poster is not a teenager–but the individual who made that post has no way of knowing.
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