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  • #590510
    bein_hasdorim
    Participant

    There are many types of Esrogim on the market. To name a few;

    Yanover from (Italy), Chazon Ish, Kfar chabad, Taymani, etc..

    What type is your minhag? & what do you look for in a Esrog.

    big or small? green or yellow? smooth or bumpy?

    our minhag is to buy Yanover.

    #816537

    what is yanover?

    #816538
    mepal
    Member

    Do they advertise a lot? The name rings a bell.

    #816539
    goody613
    Member

    i usually by gross but not for any specific reason, i just like the way they look

    #816540
    bein_hasdorim
    Participant

    It is imported from pardeisim in Italy it’s without a pitum, ( i believe it falls)

    less bumpy more smooth peel, it doesn’t get bright yellow (like a lemon)

    usually green to a soft yellow. not so common on the street.

    Although I think Lubavitch planted these yanover seeds in Israel in kfar chabad

    & those look very different than the original yanover due to climate & humidity etc..

    I think thats actually what kfar chabad esrogim are. (not sure)

    #816541

    My father buys only Temani

    #816542
    sunflower
    Member

    plonimas,that says alot about you….

    #816543

    Go ahead, I want to hear what you think sunflower. It’s probably all wrong.

    Mods – could you let her reply go through even if you might consider it personal? I just want to know what she thinks.

    #816544
    feivel
    Participant

    glatt kosher

    very bumpy

    symmetrical

    straight nose

    no pitam

    stem aligned with the “pitam” in a straight line

    green if possible

    not too big

    just plain looks beautiful to me

    #816545
    sunflower
    Member

    holy cow plonisalmonis! first of all why are assuming im a she? second, i never said ill go tell u your whole life story, and even if i think i may as well make up something really personal beacause u are so eager to hear someone say something about u! aw 4get it, i ill just keep it in!

    #816547
    cherrybim
    Participant

    bein_hasdorim – You can find Yanover with a pitim.

    feivel – How do you get a glatt esrog and very bumpy at the same time; it’s a s’tira?

    However, my beautiful esrog is grown in Eretz Yisroel and is: pale green; thick sturdy pitim; with ridges running from top to bottom and not bumpy like cellulite, totally clean- not even the tiniest dots anywhere of any color; with perfect gidul – pitim pointing straight up and aligned with stem which is pointing straight down; with stem area indented; not elongated or roundish; without a “gartel”; without bletflekin; with a top hechsher.

    This type of esrog would sell for quite a lot more from the esrog dealers since you have to take into account rent and vastly higher profit expectations.

    #816548
    jphone
    Member

    One that is kosher according to halacha and passes the “hadar test” of my wife.

    #816549
    pookie
    Member

    whichever i can get for 15 bucks on J

    #816550
    feivel
    Participant

    its not a sterah

    although glatt means smooth

    in terms of shchita it also means that by being smooth there are no shailas that need to be asked

    i meant glatt in the sense that there are no spots or other possible psulim that need to be clarified.

    #816551
    Feif Un
    Participant

    I treat myself every year to a very nice set. Yes, it costs me money, but I feel right doing it. My grandfather A”H used to buy nice sets also (I went with him a few times when he bought it), and he felt it was important, so I follow the same way.

    This year, I was told by someone that they had a few of the really top-notch quality esrogim (the ones that in Brooklyn, you get taken into the back room and charged hundreds of dollars for) for a good price. I can honestly say I got the nicest esrog I have ever bought. Not one bletel on the entire thing, perfectly straight, nice strong pittum… it really looks like one of the ones you find in a picture.

    #816552
    pookie
    Member

    feif un thats good u should enjoy it

    #816553
    yoshi
    Member

    I’ve always used yellow esrogim in the past. Can someone clarify the difference between having green as apposed to a yellow colored one? Just curious, Thanks 🙂

    #816554
    pookie
    Member

    the color?

    #816555
    feivel
    Participant

    some shades of green can be pasul

    yellow is always a Kosher color

    some shades of yellow, though, indicate the esrog is overripe and may not last well through Succos

    i just prefer green, no reason , it is more beautiful to me.

    #816556
    haifagirl
    Participant

    I was told by the esrog dealer I usually go to that the more bumps it has the more beautiful it is. I told her if she had bumps she wouldn’t be beautiful. But then again, she’s not an esrog.

    I recently saw some that were about twice as large as what I’m used to. I’m not sure what kind they were.

    #816557
    feivel
    Participant

    if they are bumpy they are less likely to be from grafts, which are assur.

    #816558
    WolfishMusings
    Participant

    My only requirement for an esrog (aside from the kashrus, obviously) is no pitom.

    When my kids were little, I was always afraid that if I got one with a pitom, they’d break it off; so I “played it safe” and always bought without. Now that my kids are older, I simply continued doing so.

    The Wolf

    #816561
    cherrybim
    Participant

    I have heard that the esrog growers send their better esrogim to America because that’s where the money is. And the wholesalers send their Brooklyn rejects to out-of town shuls and Judaica stores because the money is in New York and out-of town don’t have the discriminating mind set.

    #816562
    pookie
    Member

    yeh go brooklyn

    #816563
    Joseph
    Participant

    “and out-of town don’t have the discriminating mind set.”

    cherrybim: I cannot be mekabel such lashon horah regarding out-of-towners!

    #816564
    cherrybim
    Participant

    Speak up Joseph, I can’t hear you with your head in the sand.

    #816565
    cantoresq
    Member

    I ask around my schul to find out who paid the most for an etrog, and then go spend $5.00 more than that person paid.

    #816566
    bein_hasdorim
    Participant

    plonisalmonis: the taymani ones on the market are usually very large!

    sunflower: do you have a love of papitos? (sunflower seeds)

    cherrybim: yeah though most on the market & typical yanover dont have, I heard it falls off

    while on the tree.

    jphone: what’s her hadar test? dishwasher safe? or not having sunkist stamped on it? 🙂

    Feif Un: happy to hear, nitz es gezunterheit!

    Joseph: 😉

    cherrybim: maybe outta towners arent so picky!

    Joseph: sorry 4 the lashon horah.

    EDITED

    #816567
    sunflower
    Member

    bh – wow do u like go thru each person and say s/t about them? anyway, it has nothing to do with but I LOVE SUNLOWER SEEDS! i didnt have them in years? is papyot in hebrew?

    #816568
    areivimzehlazeh
    Participant

    cherrybim’s detailed description fits our minhag except we consider a gartel more m’hudar

    #816569
    bygirl31
    Member

    bein hasdorim- arent garinim sunflower seeds?

    #816570
    Joseph
    Participant

    areivim: No Shtreimel!?

    #816571
    bein_hasdorim
    Participant

    sunflower: “I see something in your future!” Something special,

    Something salty… or not. it comes in a bag.. or not.

    Yes! Yes! it’s a ………………. sorry time is up!

    This reading is free of charge, come back again tomorrow.

    I am following up on my ORIGINAL post.

    Now, I ask you, what is your preference when choosing an esrog?

    #816572
    bein_hasdorim
    Participant

    bygirl31: in Hebrew, however, In yiddish we call em Papitos, or the yershalmim call it…lets see if anyone here knows?

    btw, areivim: is a gartel a totally natural occurence or do they tie a string around it while its growing? 😉

    #816573
    sunflower
    Member

    come on bh! my tongue is watering!

    #816574
    bygirl31
    Member

    oh… goood to know…thanks 🙂

    #816575
    areivimzehlazeh
    Participant

    b_h: my sheilah is why they’re using weekday gartlach (thin) for an esrog used on Succos

    Joseph: dunno bout yours, but when my esrog wants to pop out everyone’s eyes it dons a pink necktie

    #816576
    bein_hasdorim
    Participant

    sunflower: then we have to move this conversation over to the Chulent thread.

    #816577
    bein_hasdorim
    Participant

    areivim: lol! what suit does it wear, vateh, foam, bounty, or bubble wrap?

    #816578
    areivimzehlazeh
    Participant

    moh zeh vateh??

    #816579
    bein_hasdorim
    Participant

    the stuff that looks like an old blond sheitel used to wrap the esrog,

    not so popular these days.

    #816580
    squeak
    Participant

    zeh nikra “flax”

    #816581
    bein_hasdorim
    Participant

    tomato, tomaato.

    #816582
    cherrybim
    Participant

    areivimzehlazeh- I think the gartel m’huder minhag was started by the dealers who couldn’t get anyone to buy them.

    #816583
    bein_hasdorim
    Participant

    cherrybim: that sounds about right.

    #816584
    sunflower
    Member

    plonisalmonis, are still going curious? what happened to u ?

    #816585
    bein_hasdorim
    Participant

    A friend of my believes that this year, he owns the nicest Esrog in the world!

    I’m happy for him & hope you’re all happy with your choice of Esrog.

    May we be Zoche to be m’kayem all the wonderful Mitzvos that come with this Yom Tov.

    Wishing all gut Shabbos & a Chag Kosher V’sameach!

    V’hiyisem “ACH” Someach!

    #816586

    Oh, I’m still curious snflwr, but I’m also an obedient little girl and you said you won’t tell me, so I didn’t nag you.

    But yes, if you want to be nice….

    #816587
    sunflower
    Member

    are u sure?

    #816588
    Feif Un
    Participant

    I don’t think a gartel is a hiddur, it’s a personal preference. My father happens to like the way it looks, so he buys one with a gartel if he can.

    Buying without a pitum is not a problem at all, but my brother told me it’s brought down that having a pitum is a hiddur.

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