April 7, 2013 3:09 am at 3:09 am #608874
So there’s this kid I know. She gets a +2 in her Tefila class every time she goes to shul. Do you think this is a good policy on her teacher’s part?April 7, 2013 3:30 am at 3:30 am #942989youngladyMember
the gra holds that girls shouldn’t go to shul at allApril 7, 2013 3:32 am at 3:32 am #942990
We don’t know enough about this “kid” to be able to answer this question intelligently.April 7, 2013 4:10 am at 4:10 am #942991
i knew of a kid that was in my class that got a five dollar gift card for coming to school for every week straight to davening on timeApril 7, 2013 5:13 am at 5:13 am #942992
Younglady: And why is that? This girl never talks, I’ll have you know.April 7, 2013 5:14 am at 5:14 am #942993
yiddishmeidel: Hmm not much you can do with $5.April 7, 2013 3:00 pm at 3:00 pm #942994youngladyMember
torah613torah: it’s not about talking in shul, the gra says that going to shul will cause kinah and lashon harah when she will see the other girls dressed better than her.April 7, 2013 3:08 pm at 3:08 pm #942995
torah613- no she got one EVERY week that she came on time, so how many weeks in a school year!!!!!!!!!!!! and besides for a girl any amount is good to buy things with 🙂April 7, 2013 4:22 pm at 4:22 pm #942996
Policy is not going to get this kid where the teacher would like. Even if she goes to shul. You can’t force anyone to daven even with incentives… If this kid wants to daven, she will. And if she doesn’t want to, so then all the incentives in the world will not help.
yiddeshemeidle613, Getting to school on time for davening is nice, but this kid might still not be davening.
younglady, so in that case girls shouldn’t go anywhere. How about girls working on their middos? Are you sure that this is the reason for The Gra?April 7, 2013 5:30 pm at 5:30 pm #942997
sharp- ??April 7, 2013 7:53 pm at 7:53 pm #942998
younglady: Women didn’t shmooze with each other in the Gra’s time?
Sharp: Imho, tests should be academic. You shouldn’t get a +2 for doing things. What about kids whose mothers need them at home?April 7, 2013 9:02 pm at 9:02 pm #942999
T613, “Imho, tests should be academic. You shouldn’t get a +2 for doing things. “
I don’t know the kid or the situation, so I won’t comment on this.
What about kids whose mothers need them at home?
I gave you one reason why I didn’t like this policy. You’re bringing another. I agree with you. I have many more reasons as to why I don’t like this policy. I commented on the Tefillah part because this is what I thought you meant.
(As a side point, I’m pretty sure the mother can phone the teacher if she is averse to it…)April 7, 2013 9:17 pm at 9:17 pm #943000interjectionParticipant
The vilna gaon writes in a letter to his family (igeres hagra) that his wife and daughters shouldn’t go to shul because it can be a fashion show. These girls grew up with the vilna gaon as a father, he knew they were the last people you’d expect to talk in shul.
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