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    2024 financial aid computation for colleges stops considering multiple children in college. That US, before family contribution was divided by number of children in college, now it won’t. I presume, byh, it affects a lot of Jewish families. Anyone sees the effect on total amounts? How do colleges, especially landers, touro, yu respond? Do they compensate with other aid sources?


    Why did the government stop considering the number of children in college for FAFSA?


    That is m second question. There seems to be a vague hint to 2020 law implementation, but whether some of it are Agency decisions, I don’t know.


    FAFSA is just a data collection device. What institutions do with the data is up to each institution. It is an interesting “shailoh” whether anti-discrimination laws might impact on a school’s decisions about how they consider family size.


    Fafsa also determines eligibility for federal subsidized loans and free money. These do not change by college, but maybe college present it to you as part of their overall package.

    This is like school asking you to apply for special ed because they’ll be using it to get government funds


    Overall, the new FAFSA application will provide more funds to more lower-income students but there will be some who may see a reduced funding eligibility. As of October 2022, what used to be called the”Expected Family Contribution, or EFC, calculation and is now the Student Aid Index or SAI , no longer includes a sibling discount, which took into account how many children from the same family were attending college at the same time. The new formula is applied uniformly across all racial, ethnic and religious groups and geographic regions in accordance with the law.

    Sadly, the actual online FAFSA application form which was supposed to be ready for users back in mid-2023 is running late and was just delayed again by HHS due to software and funding issues.


    Gadol, thanks for quoting this strange language. In simpler terms, I think, expected contribution is not divided by number of children in college. I don’t think renaming the index resolves the math issue: parents are expected to be able to pay X for college. Where can they find X×4? Should this be treated as yerusha and the behor getting a double? And girls just room and board? And is it appropriate for our public servants to spend our public funds on obfuscation that tries to hide what they are doing? Is this actually written in the law?


    I think you have to take “Dora’s” word on this. It is probably an expert as it constantly demonstrates as it is vying for the president job at Harvard. And a University president would be expert at all things FAFSA. וד״ל


    Is the original poster trolling or actually plans to send to “landers, touro, yu”. The same question applies to yeshivos some get government funding.

    As with yeshivos and landers, touro, yu – you have to make you individual with each mosad/organization.

    Just saying.


    Nisht: I actually turned down the Harvard gig….I’m rumored to be on the short list of candidates for the President of the University of Chelm.


    Gadol, good idea I never heard of antisemitism or plagiarism at Chelm.


    Dull, when you are getting fin aid from a college, it includes financial aid from the government. I think colleges make t clear. I am not sure how yeshivot that are accredited as colleges work, do you not get a lit o financial aid by source?

    So far, none of my kids went to the above colleges, they go to regular colleges for specific degrees and learn Jewish subjects unrelated to government educational requirements, no reason to mix them up. They are also not zoche to financial aid so far, bh, that is why I am unfamiliar and asking questions.


    “I never heard of antisemitism or plagiarism at Chelm [University].

    Antisemitism no but the current vacancy is the result of the prior University President claiming he authored several original seforim of responsa that in reality, were verbatim compilations of the all-time greatest CR posts from R’ Yosef.


    The new FAFSA would result of more aid only to lower income children from small families, and apparently pays for it with reducing aid to poor families with many children. Especially if the Republicans win, it might get changed. It appears to have been an administrative decision rather than a statute, making it easy to change.


    Not just poor children with many children, but middle class also – as the expected contribution was divided by number of children. The articles I saw made a vague reference to a 2020 statute, but it did not sound like an honest reference. If this is another step in social engineering, there should be some political backlash – and suburban mothers should not be happy, whenther Jewish or not … Maybe it will not be noticed until parents see their FAFSA results?


    One of the objectives of the 2020 legislation was to try and level the playing field as between families whose kids’ ages were clustered together (and likely to have several kids in college simultaneously) and those whose kids’ ages were spread out. The details of this change and all the other were left to the bureaucrats at DoEd who have totally screwed up the new simplified electronic application which is months late and creating a nightmare for high school seniors who have no idea whether they will get financial aid and how much.


    OK, I found 2019 law. It indeed lists factors that should be used to compute the new “student index” and number of family members in college is not one of them. Did members of Congress understand that this is a change?

    At the same time, when listing items in the FAFSA, the form asks for that number. Also, in a part I do not fully understand, it says that financial officers can take into account “special circumstances” –
    section 479A
    A financial aid administrator shall have the authority to, on the basis of documentation, make adjustments on a case-by-case basis to the cost of attendance or the values of the data used to calculate the student aid index or Federal Pell Grant award (or both) for an individual eligible applicant with special circumstances

    and that includes
    (I) tuition expenses at an elementary school or secondary school;
    “(VI) the number of family members enrolled in a degree, certificate, or other program leading to a recognized educational credential

    So, it sounds like the general policy does not count siblings, but one can beg. Whom? College? Feds? Maybe lawyers and parents here can explain.


    Gadol > level the playing field

    I think you are working for fafsa legal councel.

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