February 5, 2015 10:10 pm at 10:10 pm #1058403
So did Venrock and New Enterprise Associates.February 5, 2015 11:14 pm at 11:14 pm #1058404
SiDi™February 5, 2015 11:19 pm at 11:19 pm #1058405
Venture capital firms that debated whether to capitalize popa.
Anyhow, I assume you’re referring to a small gift during the engagement (since you’re considering flowers), so what’s wrong with a gift of jewelry with a disclaimer that it’s not gold?February 6, 2015 12:45 am at 12:45 am #1058406
Let me backtrack. First of all, none of my questions are ????? (at this point of time). I was wondering about flowers and why girls like them. So I started a thread. Then RebYidd Bumped this thread and I felt it fit into my flowers question.
To be clear, I have no problem if one informs the gift receiver that the product is not “real”. I would have a problem if no disclaimer was made.
But my question(s) about flowers remain.
SiDi™February 6, 2015 1:31 pm at 1:31 pm #1058407popa_bar_abbaParticipant
Most of the dianond sellers aren’t selling real diamonds anyway. Only diff been buying “real” and “fake” is at who is gtting tricked.
You’re essentially paying extra for the privilege of being fooled, so that you won’t feel like a doofus for giving fake.
Everyone in the industry knows this. A real 1 karat ring of a quality you could give your wife would be way out of your range. Don’t believe me? Walk into Tiffany’s and ask for a ring. You think your neighbor’s cousin’s jewelry store has a secret deal with the pope that let’s them get quarter price diamonds?February 6, 2015 1:42 pm at 1:42 pm #1058408
Of course, it is possible that Tiffany’s is the one doing the ripping off…February 6, 2015 4:06 pm at 4:06 pm #1058409mybrotherMember
Ive Worked in the jewelry business for awhile, I’ve got to know the different styles and price points starting from Costume jewelry, silver, beads and then theres gold & diamond jewelry. Anyone who knows the business can see whether an item is real or fake. theres nothing wrong with costume or silver, its alot cheaper but its a gift and as long as you dont lie and say it gold/diamond theres nothing wrong.
Saying that diamond dealers are selling fake goods by bringing proof from tiffany prices is a very illogical. its like saying Honda is selling fake cars because if you go to buy a Rolls Royce dealer the cars there are 10x the price… diamonds are priced based on a wide range of “color” “quality” and “size”. But they will especially get price bump when their “certified” by a specific company such as Tiffany…February 6, 2015 4:18 pm at 4:18 pm #1058410popa_bar_abbaParticipant
But they will especially get price bump when their “certified” by a specific company such as Tiffany…
In other words you agree with me. Tiffany isn’t manufacturing them, or even putting a Tiffany logo on so people will recognize the brand. They’re just–your words–certifying, that it is real.February 6, 2015 4:36 pm at 4:36 pm #1058411
And then, according to you, quadrupling the price for that. So who’s doing the ripping off, the one who sells a diamond for $2,500, or the one who sells the same quality and size diamond for $10,000? And if you’re worried that your neighbor’s cousin is selling you a CZ, just bring it to a different store to get it appraised.February 6, 2015 5:10 pm at 5:10 pm #1058412oomisParticipant
I personally love good costume jewelry. I could not care less if I am wearing or receiving a real jewel. That said, please do not EVER give someone jewelry that they believe is genuine gemstones or 14k gold or Sterling Silver, when it is fake. That is gneivas daas at the very least, and probably a whole lot of other aveiros, not to tell them the truth. My two cents’ worth.February 6, 2015 6:55 pm at 6:55 pm #1058413mybrotherMember
all of Tiffany jewelry or really from any real designer company will be marked/stamped of some kind on the “gold” to know that it is real. Nobody is marking anything on the actual diamond. A certified diamond from tiffany means that “they” examined and evaluated that specific stone to have the standard and quality/color that tiffany advertises. its their haskama so to speak that u pay for.. which in real life didn’t change the item but its a feeling of security & people are willing to pay for that.February 6, 2015 8:13 pm at 8:13 pm #1058414👑RebYidd23Participant
Fake diamonds are ugly. Real glass, cubic zirconia,and crystals are beautiful.February 8, 2015 7:24 pm at 7:24 pm #1058415barlevParticipant
So if you guys were making a choshen for the kohen gadol, you would use fakes?
The Queen of England also should use fakes, the crown jewels are worth a fortune,
. Why didn’t eliezer give rivka fakes?February 8, 2015 9:29 pm at 9:29 pm #1058416
barlev, if you have enough money to afford real diamonds and jewellery, then by all means buy them. This thread is discussing the majority of people who for them real jewellery would break the bank.
SiDi™February 9, 2015 4:20 am at 4:20 am #1058417oomisParticipant
Barlev, they probably had not yet created synthetic jewels then, would you not agree? In any case, the bigdei kehuna were made as Hashem instructed.November 30, 2017 7:31 pm at 7:31 pm #1416469JosephParticipant
Don’t waste yiddishe gelt.
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