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    spot on

    How can you know?


    Does laziness already have a DSM diagnosis?

    If not, give the APA some more time.


    Yes this topic is about attention. Two questions I have recently.
    1. What is it about attention that if someone “asks for it” no one wants to give it? If someone wants a loan no body minds lending. If someone wants a kind word or encouragement people give it. If someone wants a lift people give him. But if someone “just wants attention” then everyone has to ignore him?
    2. There are so many times people do weird or loud or different things and people run to say they’re just doing it for attention. and so many times that’s no true. Let’s say you have a tenth grader standing on his desk in middle of math class and screaming and one of the more mature kids say “You just want attention.” Which could be not true at all. Maybe he just finds it very funny. In fact, if someone els would do it he’d find it funny and enjoy it so obviously his actions have nothing to do with attention, it’s just he finds it funny and wants it done–doesn’t matter who does it.
    Or you have a guy who lights his menorah outside and someone walks by and mutters it’s not the minhag he just wants attention. Like how dumb is that? Maybe the guy’s a big machmir maybe he doesn’t know halacha maybe he does know halacha and the passer by is wrong–whatever, why are people always running to say oh its just for attention?



    People in today’s generation have the need and MUST to know that they exist. So how do they go about seeing this out honestly by themselves? By looking for attention and seeing if people are or not giving it to them. When people look at them doing something crazy which their willing to do for a price of acting crazy in exchange for the good and important self esteem that every person needs to have to feel good about themselves.

    A psychologist


    If you WANT to do something but are too tired it’s fatigue.
    If you HAVE to do something you don’t want to do but are suddenly too tired its laziness.

    My guess is if you care enough to ask, it’s not laziness.

    Here are some possible causes:

    DSM – see ADHD
    It’s much different than people think it is. Can cause issues getting started with tasks. Looks lazy from the outside, but weird brain chemistry on the inside. If you are always running late or procrastinating tasks or feeling tired specifically when bored it could be this.
    A neuropsychological evaluation can check for this with a series of tests.

    Depression can make it hard to get out of bed or get motivated even with sufficient rest.

    Underlying medical issues can cause fatigue. Some are hard to diagnose and often missed by doctors.
    Sleep issues such as sleep apnea and restless leg syndrome’s lesser known cousin perioc limb movement disorder, can interupt your sleep without you being aware of it. If you wake up after a full night’s rest still feeling exhausted could be this.
    A sleep study can diagnose.

    Digestive issues like celiac disease and IBD-Crohns/UC which is very common among Jews but incredibly hard to get correctly diagnosed.
    See a Gastroenterologist.

    Thyroid issues and Anemia can cause fatigue. Get a bloodwork panel.

    Hope this helps!


    While both fatigue and laziness may lead to a decrease in productivity, it is important to understand the underlying causes to address them appropriately.

    Fatigue can often be resolved through adequate rest and self-care, while laziness may require introspection, motivation-building techniques, or strategies to overcome psychological barriers.


    If you are a teenage girl still in bed on a Shabbos or Sunday morning at 11:30 AM, it’s definitely not fatigue.


    teenagers are wired to wake up later and go to sleep later due to their melatonin cycle. Try getting up later and then do whatever you need to do. Tell the school that Dr AAQ lets you skip the first two hours.


    What is the difference between עיף and יעף? Why is the word for “tired” עיף but in ברכות השחר we say הנותן ליעף כח?
    The answer has to do with putting עשו before יעקב
    עשו was the first to say עיף, he put himself before יעקב
    Also when we remember Amalek we say עיף
    When you put יעקב before עשו you say יעף

    spot on

    Why are babies and children never layy?

    spot on



    Fatigue and laziness are two different concepts, although they can sometimes manifest in similar ways. It’s important to differentiate between them because they have distinct underlying causes and implications. Here’s how you can distinguish between fatigue and laziness:


    Physical and Mental Exhaustion: Fatigue is often characterized by both physical and mental exhaustion. You might feel drained, both in terms of your body and your mind.
    Causes: Fatigue can result from various factors, such as lack of sleep, intense physical or mental activity, illness, stress, or medical conditions.
    Response to Rest: Fatigue usually improves with rest, relaxation, and proper sleep. Taking a break, getting some sleep, or engaging in activities that relax you can help alleviate fatigue.
    Physical Symptoms: Fatigue might be accompanied by physical symptoms such as muscle weakness, difficulty concentrating, headaches, and overall body discomfort.

    Lack of Motivation: Laziness typically involves a lack of motivation or unwillingness to engage in activities that require effort, despite having the energy to do so.
    Mindset: Laziness is more about mindset and attitude rather than physical exhaustion. You might have the capacity to do things, but you’re avoiding them due to a lack of interest or motivation.
    Overcoming Laziness: Overcoming laziness involves finding ways to motivate yourself, setting goals, breaking tasks into smaller steps, and challenging negative thought patterns.
    Persistent Patterns: Laziness can become a habit if you consistently avoid tasks or responsibilities that you know you should be doing. It’s important to address this pattern if it interferes with your goals.
    In summary, fatigue is often a response to physical or mental strain and can be alleviated with rest and self-care. Laziness, on the other hand, involves a lack of motivation and effort, and it requires addressing underlying psychological and emotional factors to overcome. If you find yourself frequently struggling with fatigue or laziness, it might be helpful to consult a healthcare professional or a mental health specialist to better understand and manage these feelings.

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