August 8, 2019 7:01 pm at 7:01 pm #1771705HaimyParticipant
We’re so used to being fed secular ideology telling us that the Holocaust was a man made event caused by out of control antisemitism, we start believing it.
We are maaminim bnei maaminim that the Holocaust was a gezeirah min hashamayim. Different reasons have been given by gedolei Yisroel why it happened but all agree it wasn’t a gezeirah. The way to annul gezeiros is through yeshiva, tefilah, & tzedaka, not through politics.
It’s possible we’re supposed to make hishtadlus to minimize sinas Yisroel & oppose antisemitism but that’s a tafel not the ikar.
Let’s remember that the Holocaust was a gezeirah from Hashem & all gezeiros are wakeup call for teshuva. The ADL, Simon Wiesenthal, Askonim etc. Won’t stop a Holocaust, only we can by our own actions.August 8, 2019 7:33 pm at 7:33 pm #1771878☕ DaasYochid ☕Participant
I agree (although there’s a pretty awkward typo there).August 8, 2019 7:34 pm at 7:34 pm #1771877WhatsaktomeParticipant
Obviously, but you still have to do everything you can בטבע to try to stop itAugust 8, 2019 7:43 pm at 7:43 pm #1771883☕ DaasYochid ☕Participant
Obviously, but you still have to do everything you can בטבע to try to stop it
He said thatAugust 8, 2019 10:06 pm at 10:06 pm #1771890Reb EliezerParticipant
Look at the Klei Yokor this week on פנו לכם צפומה to be hidden ih galus and not to make the goyim jealous by building fancy houses and also not to forget that we are strangers in a strange land like it happened in mitzraim.August 9, 2019 9:22 am at 9:22 am #1771978ubiquitinParticipant
“The way to annul gezeiros is through yeshiva, tefilah, & tzedaka, not through politics.”
Thats your way. Yaakov avinu taught us the way to fight antisemites is with “doron , tefila, and milchama”August 9, 2019 10:27 am at 10:27 am #1771986mentsch1Participant
I grew up in a MO neighborhood where some people wore “never again” kippos. They meant through guns and might, and on that basis the OP is correct.
On the rest I disagree on 2 points
1) Politics is Hishtadlus. Just read the new Artscroll Rav Kalmonovitz biography. Or ask the Iranians saved by Rav Neuberger when I was in Ner Yisroel. There are countless examples.
2) At least one of the organizations you mentioned is headed by frum people, and they have put out many fires and saved many jewish lives through the years. (I know first hand stories).
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