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  • #1914343
    Sam Klein
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    With NJ and many other states all voting with corruption based on only with mail in ballot that we will never even know if they received AND counted our votes.

    How long will we all need to wait versus election day of November 3rd until we find out who really won the presidential election?
    Of course we all know the truth that Hashem runs the entire world and the United States not the President who is will just be his messenger to be the next president of the United States

    #1914404
    Gadolhadorah
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    Sam: Remember that there are very clear admonitions in the Torah regarding actions one can take to harm themselves. If you wake up on Thursday morning and Biden has been declared the winner or is leading by an insurmountable margin, remember to take a deep breath and remember the frequent words of some anonymous CR poster that “Hashem Controls Everything That Happens”.

    #1914450
    CTLAWYER
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    @SamKlein

    Stop printing LIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    “NJ and many other states all voting with corruption based on only with mail in ballot ”

    From the NJ Dept of Elections website:
    “Polling Place Locations
    While the November 3, 2020 election is being conducted primarily with vote by mail ballots, with each active registered New Jersey voter receiving a vote by mail ballot, there will still be at least one polling location available in every municipality in the state and each county will operate at least 50% of its normal polling location capacity. Voters who do not receive a vote by mail ballot or who prefer to vote in person will cast a paper ballot at their designated polling location.”

    Any NJ registered voter can vote in person.

    Enough with the Trump voter fraud conspiracy theories. It is not commonplace.

    I have been an Asst Registrar of Voters for many years, voter fraud is extremely rare. If you are concerned about mail in ballots not being received on time, blame Trump and his vile Postmaster General appointee who has slowed down mail delivery and removed sorting machines.

    #1914502
    Sam Klein
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    CTLAWYER

    yes polling places are still open for elections this year BUT only by write in ballots as if you filled it out yourself at home and not by election voting machines.

    The only ones being allowed to vote by machine in these corrupt democratic states and many other locations are seniors and sick people who cannot fill out the form but can still make it down to the polling places.

    #1914520

    Sam
    Being really honest, I do believe trump will have a sizeable lead by midnight November 4th(based on polls that were accurate in 2016+voter registration ), though he probably won’t officially be declared winner as some states allow for mail ins to be received a few days after election day. Regardless I think it will be clear by midnight November 4 that trump won.
    😂😂ctlawyer you tell Sam to stop with conspiracy theories, then pivot to the mail box conspiracy theory😂😂
    GH, in the short time since I’ve joined YWN coffee room, you’ve really stuck out as the only participant with no intention of participating in an intelligent conversation. Dunno what your trying to accomplish.

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    #1914569
    Reb Eliezer
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    torahvaluesoverparty,

    #1914575
    Reb Eliezer
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    torahvaluesoverparty, leave up to your name and read Rav Shafran’s Open Letter on his website.

    #1914641
    Reb Eliezer
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    Should be above, live up to your name.

    #1914670
    akuperma
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    It is up to each state to decide. Under Federal law, the state legislature is free to appoint electors without regard to how people vote. It is merely a “minhag” to let votes choose the electors. If New Jersey votes choose the Republicans, it is perfectly legal for the state legislature to choose Democrats. And under the Constitution, Nancy Pelosi will be the one counting votes.

    About the only thing the Constitution bans is a state can’t become a monarchy, and can’t limit the right to vote based on several factors – but there is no prohibition of election fraud, and in many blue states it is a well established minhag (Boss Daley, Tammany Hall, “Vote early and often”).

    #1914776
    CTLAWYER
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    @Torahvaluesoverparty

    I have never used the term conspiracy theory, don’t attribute it to me, that’s a FALSE claim

    #1914777
    CTLAWYER
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    @SamKlein

    I live in a Democrat majority legislature and Governor state.

    ANY registered voter may vote in person, filling out a regular ballot and then inserting it in the tabulator machine to be scanned and counted, just as it is in any other election,
    I have voted absentee for many years, as I am an Asst. Registrar of Voters and work at a polling location not my own.

    There are approx 26,000 registered voters in Town. 7,000 absentee ballots were requested and as of yesterday, 5,000 had been returned.
    That means 19,000 voters have chosen to either vote in person or not vote this election.

    #1916672
    Sam Klein
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    So now that voting is over and everyone is waiting anxiously to find out who won the presidential election-although we all know that Hashem runs the entire world-which election or government website can give everyone the latest election updates and where it’s holding with counting the votes and all the mail in ballot people filled out this year instead of using the machines to vote?

    #1916777
    huju
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    Finding out who wins the 2020 presidential election is easy. It will probably be in all the newspapers by Friday, 11/6/2020. In the meantime, be patient.

    #1916791
    KGN
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    And voting machines weren’t working in Brooklyn.

    And I’m sure something was up in AZ (which is predominately Republican).

    #1916837
    Gadolhadorah
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    So when ALL the votes are counted and if Biden is declared the winner, we MUST accept the results since as Sam Klein has reminded us 17 times in the past month “that Hashem runs the entire world…” and if that is the outcome, it is only because the Ebeshter made it happen.

    #1916859
    Mominess
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    Only disabled people were allowed to vote in person in NJ

    #1916885
    Gadolhadorah
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    Just to be clear. FOX News, not CNN or MSNBC, just called Michigan for Biden and has him at 264 of the required 270 electoral votes. Either Nevada or Arizona would put him over the top. The Republicans might have a better chance of gaining credibility if they didn’t just put up Crazy Rudy at a news conference to suggest they are considering a NATIONAL lawsuit to throw out ALL mail-in ballots as part of a national conspiracy orchestrated by the DNC. There are some serious GOP lawyers with legitimate election law credentials so I’m mystified why Crazy Rudy has become the face of the Trump kvetching about voter fraud.

    #1916890
    JacobLev
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    According to Fox News, Biden has Arizona already for 264 Electoral votes. Nevada would give him 6 more for a total of 270. Any of the other undecided states of PA, NC, or GA would put him way over 270 Electoral Votes.

    #1916891

    lots of strange things happened this year already. how about a 270-268 election, then 1 elector switching his vote (based on new Hunter revelations or bribede by Russians) and election goes to Congress. Congress compromises on Biden as a VP (again). Maybe a rotation, Israeli style.

    #1916902
    Amil Zola
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    Ya know even if Biden gets to a verified 270 the president can drag this all out until1/20/2021. After observing his behavior for 4 years I suspect he will do just that.

    #1916917
    Gadolhadorah
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    Amil: He will drag it out well beyond the inauguration. He literally needs public adulation like you and I need oxygen so he will continue with the MAGA rallies and desperate efforts to keep himself in the public spotlight. I anticipate nonstop Tweets with “new” allegations about the crooked Bidens, perhaps new broyges with the Obamas and anything that might get him a few minutes on national TV. I could only wish he will disappear January 21, 2020 but it won’t happen.

    #1916960
    🍫Syag Lchochma
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    Amil – I can so relate to wishing ALL of this will just go away . When I read what you said about dragging it out my first thought was that he can instead take a page out of the dems book and just spend 4 years making it unhappen. But I’m guessing you won’t enjoy the joke as much as I did.

    Glad it’s all over, on to the next crisis!

    #1916968
    DovidBT
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    I just read the following:

    After states certify their results, the electors of the Electoral College will convene on Dec. 14 in their respective states to cast one ballot for president and one for vice president.

    Those results are then delivered to the Capitol, where on Jan. 6, 2021, the Senate and House of Representatives will meet for a joint session in the House chamber to count the electoral votes.

    When the votes have been counted and one ticket has received a majority of 270 or more electoral votes, the vice president, who presides as president of the Senate, will announce the results.

    #1916983
    emes nisht sheker
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    Syag – ha, it is so funny what you say! The Democrats tried undoing the 2016 election? An election they did not contest or throw a tantrum and go to court or threaten to go to court over. They did nothing to undo the election. Trump committed serious crimes while in office and he was impeached for that. But then of course, you might not know this, because you only get your news from articles approved by Hannity and Carlson.

    Thanks for the laugh! 😀

    #1917363
    huju
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    FU (follow-up) to my previous comment: If the results aren’t in the papers by Friday, 11/6, be more patient and wait a few more days.

    #1917396
    Gadolhadorah
    Participant

    Well, another good sign is the total absence of Mike Pence who has already decided NOT to tarnish his 2024 Presidential chances by repeating Trump’s crazy “stolen election” nareshkeit while being careful not to alienate the hard-core MAGA voters who believe this stuff. Pence thus joins AG Barr and FBI Director Wray in keeping their heads down and their legacies intact. Another indicator is the just announced employment counseling effort by a bunch of K Street lobbyists to create a job bank for WH staffers who are frantically trying to get their resumes out for new positions beginning in two months. Apparently, there won’t be a big demand for former Trump staffers in the new administration.

    #1917415
    Ben Levi
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    Just as an aside

    You can say “Crazy Rudy” from today till tomorrow.

    However when it comes to lawyers there are few that have the credentials of Rudy Giuliani.

    He is widely considered to have been the driving force behind the take down of organized crime in New York.

    He is considered one of the most effective Federal Prosecutors of his era.

    #1920674
    Sam Klein
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    When this was started and written we all thought OK so it will take a few extra days to do the counting and know enough to know who won and who lost even if we don’t have the total amount of numbers.

    Now we are almost 2 weeks since election day and we still don’t know who is the real winner of the presidential election race….

    WHAT DOES THAT TELL ALL OF US?????

    Hashem runs the entire world and controls the united States of america no matter who wins the election results. And we don’t have control over the country. The democrats can try to be corrupt and steal the election from Trump winning but either way the country will always be run by HASHEM the king of kings ruler of the world.

    May this all go deeply into our minds and remind us of this all the time so that we don’t think these messenger agents of kings and prime minister rule the countries of the world

    #1921621
    charliehall
    Participant

    “we still don’t know who is the real winner of the presidential election race”

    No, we knew two weeks ago. Trump tried to steal the election by having the Postal Service fail to deliver mail in ballots in Detroit and Philadelphia but he lost anyway. No fraud has been found. Biden is President Elect.

    #1921633
    Health
    Participant

    Oh Charlie, -“Biden is President Elect”

    Yes, he was – For 2 Weeks.
    Now that the TRUTH Came out in Rudy’s News Conference, You can Keep Living in that Little Dream World!
    Trump is President & will be for the Next 4 Years.
    It’s Time to Put Down this Insurrection!!!

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