November 20, 2022 12:34 pm at 12:34 pm #2140573moishekapoiehParticipant
my man !November 20, 2022 1:20 pm at 1:20 pm #2140713MarxistParticipant
So let’s pretend nothing is happening in the West Bank and just ignore all of Israel’s human rights violations. Great way to deal with the conflict.November 20, 2022 2:01 pm at 2:01 pm #2140770AviraDeArahParticipant
marx, being right or wrong on the issue isn’t top priority – for some reason, it seems that goyim are only able to have two positions on Israel. Either they defend it unconditionally, or they attack it mercilessly, and Jews as a whole together with it, often as part of antisemitic conspiracy theories, while ignoring palestinian crimes.
While it’s true that Israel mistreats palestinians, most of whom would kill any of us given the chance(maybe chicken and the egg, but I disgress), do we want a politician who defends what is considered a jewish country, and by extension, jewish people, or do we want someone who will spew antisemitic jew hatred about israelis being colonizers who commit genocide everyday?
It would be best if Israel would drop the jewish title and become a non sectarian country of its citizens; then you can criticize it all you want and it wont lead to jews being in danger; better yet would be for the US to take it over as a territory, but that’s not happening anytime soon.
Until that happens, the zionists have put us in a position where we’re in constant danger from rabid antisemites who use Israel as an excuse for jew hatred.November 20, 2022 2:42 pm at 2:42 pm #2140774MarxistParticipant
“Either they defend it unconditionally, or they attack it mercilessly, and Jews as a whole together with it, often as part of antisemitic conspiracy theories, while ignoring palestinian crimes.”
Oh come on. Look at what Barack Obama and George HW Bush have said and did regarding Israel or really any centrist Democrat or Republican.November 20, 2022 3:16 pm at 3:16 pm #2140784AviraDeArahParticipant
Marx, neither of them were in office during BDS culture. Things are different now.
Also, obama was not the same as GHW Bush. Bush never refused to veto a biased UN resolution. He never unfreezes hundreds of millions of dollars for Palestinians who use it for terrorism, as his final act in office.
He also never gave a speech after a terror attack targeting a shul (this was back when har nof was attacked) that there is enough death “on both sides”
Bush was a centrist and had a balanced view of Israel; Obama didn’t, and it’s only gotten worse and more polarized in the past 10 years.November 20, 2022 3:17 pm at 3:17 pm #2140790ToShmaParticipant
He stated this position also earlier in Bal Harbour some months ago.November 20, 2022 4:26 pm at 4:26 pm #2140808jdf007Participant
I respectfully disagree. I hear there are a lot of immigrants from Iraq, Syria, other places down in Africa that are giving themselves a name they can’t pronounce, since those letters aren’t in Arabic, and pretending to be native all of a sudden, even forbidding Jews from entering.
Looks occupied to me.November 21, 2022 8:41 am at 8:41 am #2140898takahmamashParticipant
jdf007, what are you talking about?November 21, 2022 10:35 am at 10:35 am #2140950philosopherParticipant
Wow, some posting on this thread sound like Jew-haters! “Israel’s human rights violations”! what are you talking about! They treat Arab terrorist way better than they treat Jews. And I’m totally, absolutely not pro-Israel government, but the truth is the truth. Why are Jews such haters of their own people? When you fight terrorists who want to kill and kill innocent people what are you supposed to do? Give them a cigarette when you catch them, like Israeli soldiers did?November 21, 2022 11:54 am at 11:54 am #2140989yaakov doeParticipant
Do you all understand what pandering is?
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