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Just heard a new halacha. it is assur to flush a toilet on shabbos because you are sending water, tissues, …. from reshus hayachid into reshus harabim.
Please share your thoughts.
Then according to your line of thinking, don’t open your water faucet, because you are bringing in water from a Reshus hoRabim to a Reshus haYochid, and when water & crumbs goes down your sink drain, it will go back to a Reshus hoRabim.
Fortunately, I have learned tractate Shabbos, and IY’H look forward to recommencing tractate Shabbos on Chamishi shel Sukkos courtesy of Ushpizin Moshe when 13th cycle commences tractate Shabbos, and when you shall be learning tractate Shabbos on the 13th cycle, you shall soon become acquainted with the fact, that below a certain level under the ground, where your water pipes run, there is no such thing as a Reshus hoRabbim.
The question has been around for a couple of decades already. I don’t think underground plumbing is considered reshus harabim or even a carmelit. As for tissues, well — that souldn’t be flushed down any day of the week.
Totally wrong- the pipes are not reshus horabbim by any stretch- they are- at most- a mokom petur and hence the person who told you this “minhag” should look into more carefully.
What about the fact that it’s assur to wash the floor on Shabbos, and the toilet, being m’chubar l’karka (attached to the ground) is considered part of the floor?
The only Issurim you can come up with in this case are at most D’rabannan (and I’ve heard some decent S’varos Le’esor) and Gadol Kavod Habriyos Shedoche…
I’ve heard some decent S’varos Le’esor
What have you heard?
Can one use a plunger on Shabbos?
Why not?
What melacha are you doing by using a plunger?
I can’t believe this subject warrants serious discussion. If ever anything qualifed for less chumras, this is it
Shemiras Shabbos KeHilchoso:- Chapter 23 Paragraph 11:- Yes:- Plungers can be utilized on Shabbos when there is an important need to do so.
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Machlokes haposkim, if it’s not badly stuffed. A severely stuffed toilet is assur even according to the meikilim.
If R Akiva Eigers tshuva wasnt good enough for you then i dont know how to help you all. Enjoy your boich svaros
DaasYochid: What is a person with one toilet that is severely oversytuffed early on Shabbos to do?
abba: What does Rav Akiva Eiger say?
Who would use a plunger on Shabbos when it WASN’T important to do so? Please, people! A bissel seichel.
oomis: DaasYochid cited that specifically when the toilet was severely stuffed, that it is assur to plunge.
What is a person with one toilet that is severely oversytuffed early on Shabbos to do?
I assume it would be muttar to ask a non-Jew.
Who would use a plunger on Shabbos when it WASN’T important to do so? Please, people! A bissel seichel.
I’m not sure what you mean.
There is a machlokes whether plunging a toilet which is only mildly stuffed is muttar or assur on Shabbos. Most rabbonim would probably tell you that if there is another toilet available, don’t plunge it, but if there is only one available, one can rely on the lenient opinion.
One of the points of discussion when the Mir was on the trans-Siberia train to Shanghai for 3 weeks was if you could flush the toilet on shabbos, but that is different becuase the waste goes straight on to the track
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