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  • #2091035
    TS Baum
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    I’m sure Hashem is proud of this topic, we will show Hashem we can get along!

    #2091076
    1a2b3c
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    If I was a Lubavitcher, I would find this thread offensive.

    #2091078
    🍫Syag Lchochma
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    I find it interesting that his idea of getting along is telling people to say nice things about him.

    #2091093
    TS Baum
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    @1a2b3c
    Well I guess you aren’t because I am a lubavitvcher chossid and I don’t find it offensive, aderabe, I want to hear all the good stuff people have to say about lubavtich, not just the negative ones.

    #2091092
    TS Baum
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    My ideas is resulting from that topic about mashichistim which went totally off topic and started talking about all the shady stuff which is said about lubavitch, let’s get a but positive.
    ONE RULE: NOTHING NEGATIVE HERE!!!

    #2091108
    ujm
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    Lubavitch has beautiful niggunim.

    #2091115
    AviraDeArah
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    Lubavitch always has had beautiful nigunim.

    #2091137
    yungermanS
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    Lubavitch has beautiful kiruv worldwide and there’s a Lubavitch waiting in the airport right this minute to put tefillin on YOU.

    #2091163
    tunaisafish
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    decafinated coffe ingredients.
    10% american politics
    10% israli poplitics
    20% halachic/ hashkafic
    20% trolls
    39% Why lubavitchers arent really human beings
    1% why lubavitchers arent the worse species

    DISCLAIMER: this is exagerated (in case syag or common diddnt realize)

    #2091172
    AviraDeArah
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    Yep…in full view of pritzus, put on the heads and arms of people who don’t know or believe in the mitzvah to begin with

    #2091184
    Ysiegel
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    @1a2b3c
    I agree…I’m a Lubavitcher and I find this offensive…and silly…and other things I don’t have time to think of how to express….and takka it’s the opposite of what Lubavitch represents (a tiny bit more self confidence…)

    I’ll say this: if your feeling good about yourself is dependent on what random people from random places write anonymously about a group you associate yourself with…start learning more Chassidus, and try finishing Likkutei Dibburim from start to finish (and even if you already have…you’re obviously young enough to read it again and it will have new and different meaning every once in a while).

    Behatzlocho

    #2091204
    ymribiat
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    When were done talking about Mormons, let’s start finding nice things to day about Lubavitch…

    #2091226
    TS Baum
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    This is a kiddush Hashem

    #2091241
    DaMoshe
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    I was recently out of town somewhere without a Jewish community. Lubavitch allowed me to hear leining and daven Mussaf with a minyan on Shabbos!

    #2091248
    Lit
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    The Alter Rebbe said that Moshiach will be a Veltlicher (non-Chosid).

    #2091335
    zaidy78
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    Come on! Anyone who has traveled out of town, and yes ANYONE, has been positively effected by the Chabad shiluchim around the globe. Every frum Yid, even the chassidishe Rebbes, who has vacationed in Palm Springs, or anywhere else has been positively impacted by having a minyan. Often having a mikva. Usually they know where to pick up some food with heimishe hechsheirim. The amazing kiruv that they do impacts us all. And its only because they have such Ahavas Yisroel. I was once in Vail, CO, and they have a most beautiful minyan. It is simply because of the mesiras nefesh of these sheluchim that so many people can daven (whatever nussach they want) with a minyan. In these hick OOT spots, no one is trying to make anyone Chabad. They are providing an island of Torah and Mitzvos in middle of the wilderness.
    Its only the in towners that don’t see it, that don’t appreciate them.
    (You don’t have to agree with EVERYONEs hashkofos – and very few a real meshachist).

    And I am not Lubavitch. (But have been able to use their services when I travel). When you meet them personally, you become humbled by their accomplishments. And its kdai to support them).

    #2091381
    yaakov doe
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    Almost everything about Lubavitch is positive. You can’t judge the movement by the few kooks who fly Moshiach flags with the Rebbe’s picture.

    #2091363
    Zushy
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    Yidden are all really amazing

    an Israeli was telling me recently that he cannot beleive how he walks into a home in the US and walks out a minute later with a generous donation ….

    I think chabad are super super special,

    do an inordinate amount of chessed

    and are really moiser nefesh for hashem and yahadus

    #2091356
    n0mesorah
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    Dear Avira,

    Just thinking….. Shouldn’t those two issues in a way cancel each other out?

    #2091440
    AviraDeArah
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    Different cheshbonos, but you’re not allowed to expose tefilin to ervah; that’s a halacha

    #2091468
    Yserbius123
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    The fact that you can be in any inhabited area of the world and find a kosher meal and possibly even a minyan is amazing and speaks so much about Chabad and Rav Schneerson ZT”L.

    Out of all kiruv organizations, I feel that not only is Chabad the most successful in terms of numbers, but in terms of acceptance also. How many other Ba’alei Teshuva find their kids in the same schools as their Rabbonim, or that shidduchim marred by their past?

    #2091483
    Yserbius123
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    They have that hilarious story about the Rebbe (I think it was the Tzemach Tzedek ZT”L) taking the koach ha’tumah away from Napoleon before he invaded Russia by making the French national anthem a niggun which they still sing today.

    #2091487
    HaKatan
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    Yaakov Doe:
    That is not the concern. See the Org web site Identifying Chabad.

    #2091494
    Lit
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    They are GIANT in PR. Name me one other Hasidic sect who comes near them when it comes to promoting themselves in the media.

    #2091637

    YS > French national anthem a niggun which they still sing today.

    this is a fascinating moment in history – most of Polish/Litvish/Chasidishe Yidden and Rebbeim were enthusiastic about Napoleon, while Baal Hatanya saw assimilation from (1) Napoleon coming to Eastern Europe (this is like Jews emigrating to America, except the “goldene medinah” coming dictly to Jews”) and (2) did not see Russians going away – realpolitik, Kissinger’s style … We have to admit that he was not very wrong in both aspects.

    The machlokes was partially geographic, with Chabad being in current Belorus, while others being in Lita/Poland/Galicia. As we see now, his territory is still under Russia, while others are not.

    #2091635

    > you’re not allowed to expose tefilin to ervah;

    Chosid shoteh would not swim briskly to save a lady due to hirhurim. Here, they are trying to save figuratively drowning people! (I do not mean putting tefilin on ladies)

    #2091636

    YS > Out of all kiruv organizations … or that shidduchim marred by their past?

    As we discussed, they don’t call themselves “kiruv” and others are trying to copy their approach – imitation is best flattery. But re:shiduchim, I don’t think shluchim family marry their baalei teshuva. Maybe because they know them well 🙂

    #2091805
    tunaisafish
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    @ 1a2b3c

    why bedafke lekutei diburim. A bochur should start off with nun tes and then go to sefer hamomorim yidish and ala zachen. Ask a litvak what keser is. Nu what is keser?

    #2091934
    AviraDeArah
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    I’m a litvak, I’ve learned about keser a little.. No need for a bochur to know how sefiros are counted

    #2092545
    commonsaychel
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    Ok Great, now let us focus on the positive side of Satmar, Bobov and Belz

    #2092574
    tunaisafish
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    Common syachel i agree every now and here someone makes an extremely anti chasidish thread such as “why do chasidishes never say tachnun” or “why dont we learn on reb shayeles yartzeit instead of fressing”. we need to hate the hatred (sarcasim). but this thread is a bit of a scam

    #2092586
    🍫Syag Lchochma
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    Asking questions isn’t anti chassidish. Only chabad thinks that way.

    #2092687
    Ysiegel
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    @Syag
    Please, random individuals who anonymously post things in the name of Chabad doesn’t constitute what “Chabad” thinks.

    In fact, random Chabadniks who you may have met and who claim to expound upon the teachings of Chabad without showing any sort of depth of knowledge of the subject matter at hand, aren’t either true representatives of “Chabad” itself. There may very well be a minute group of people who represent official Chabad, but Chabad is a gigantic philosophy and way of life expounded upon in thousands (if not tens of thousands) of works over 200 years…not a bunch of baal teshuvas who learned a few maamarim from rabbis who themselves never understood Chassidut, and go screaming subjective facts (yes, an oxymoron) at the world….definitely not…

    #2092701
    🍫Syag Lchochma
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    Well, for starters, you are also a random individual posting in the name of chabad.

    The friends I have are ffb for the most part, for doros. They are wonderful friends, not lecturers, and I have learned much from and about them and how they live their lives and raise their kids over many years.

    I will say one thing for sure, they would never make such an ugly statement about baalei tshuva, they are not so full of themselves. And the irony of you talking like that while being the master of outreach.

    #2092953
    TS Baum
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    Syag, I would agree with you he’s being pretty nasty. But have no fear, I’m frum from birth, Baruch Hashem.
    “Well, for starters, you are also a random individual posting in the name of chabad.”
    Good point.

    #2092954
    TS Baum
    Participant

    Commonsaychel, I have many good things to say about other chassidim also. Maybe you’ll have the honors to start those threads?

    #2092966
    🍫Syag Lchochma
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    It may surprise you to hear this but compliments are something we give, not something we ask others to give to us.

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