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  • #610446
    Burnt Steak
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    I was just wondering if any other people like metal.

    I also was wondering if there are any Jewish Metal bands or even if there are any rock groups. Obviously not taking about groups where singer (rush/ Disturbed) is Jewish.

    #1023411
    RabbiYoni
    Member

    Not a metal head, but there used to be a great band called Metalish

    #1023413

    I was just wondering if any other people like metal.

    I also was wondering if there are any Jewish Metal bands or even if there are any rock groups. Obviously not taking about groups where singer (rush/ Disturbed) is Jewish.

    Metal music is just noises and alot of screaming

    #1023422
    assurnet
    Participant

    Pantera isn’t Jewish but I’m willing to go out on a limb and assume their agent is

    #1023423
    sharp
    Member

    Metal music is just noises and alot of screaming

    I think you’re referring to heavy metal.

    #1023424
    The Frumguy
    Participant

    I have to agree with This name is already taken. I never could stand the noise and incomprehensible screaming. Seems like it’s a cover-up for a lack of real talent. Sorry, Burnt Steak.

    #1023425
    sharp
    Member

    Burnt Steak, I think you are mixing up Hard Rock with metal.

    #1023426
    zahavasdad
    Participant

    The lead singer of Disturbed is OTD and a yeshiva boy.

    #1023427

    Sharp my mistake, it’s the same tuneless music without the screaming

    #1023428
    Burnt Steak
    Participant

    sharp

    sharper than a serpent’s tooth

    Burnt Steak, I think you are mixing up Hard Rock with metal.

    Posted 1 hour ago #

    I also enjoy that but I don’t mind the songs that have screaming in them, I focus more on the musical side.

    zahavasdad

    Member

    The lead singer of Disturbed is OTD and a yeshiva boy.

    Posted 1 hour ago #

    I know that and I know people who went to school with him. I heard many stories about his high school days and I can sort of understand why he makes that type of music.

    Thanks for all the feedback, wish there was more of a Jewish market for rock of all types.

    #1023429
    sharp
    Member

    I also agree with this name is already taken. These genres are by definition not Jewish so I seriously doubt you’d find a Jewish group. I don’t mean to lecture you but I’m a bit surprised that you’re actually a metal/ hard rock/ punk rock fan. (Not to be confused with rock). I’m surprised because you seem to be more sensible than that. I personally think these genres are for the musically illiterate. That’s just my opinion, I don’t mean to judge.

    #1023430
    LevAryeh
    Member

    I like Queen (a lot), but I don’t think that makes me a metalhead. I do like iron and zinc, but I prefer gold because I’m rich and famous.

    #1023431
    WIY
    Member

    My Rebbi used to say I have an eizeneh kup.

    #1023432
    DaMoshe
    Participant

    Burnt Steak: I also know people who went to school with David Draiman, but I don’t know much about his teen years other than what is written on Wikipedia.

    It should be noted that he is a strong supporter of Israel, and speaks out strongly against all anti-semitism. There are some celebrities who think it’s “cool” to collect Nazi memorabilia, and he has bashed them for it. The Jewish spark is alive and well in him! Let’s hope it grows further!

    #1023433

    @Sharp

    “these genres are for the musically illiterate”

    How incredibly bigoted of you! Most lead guitarists in metal bands could teach college level classes in music theory, some on the level of Stratavarius.

    In order to play with that kind of speed and precision, you need to understand how and why certain paterns and teqhniques are applicable. To call them genres for the musically illiterate is just as wrong as me saying that every Jewish musician with songs on mostlymusic is a hack that just stole lyrics from Dovid HaMelech.

    #1023434
    YW fan
    Participant

    There is a new group called Buba Myses and they are awesome! I think they are Metal but it could be they are rock. (I dont know the difference) Whatever they are they are AWESOME!

    #1023435
    MCP
    Member

    Eulogist is a heavy metal band made of mostly frum guys. I know one of them. Can’t stand metal either, but their stuff sounds decent.

    #1023436

    Crisis- the ones playing it aren’t muscly illiterate, it’s the people listening to it

    #1023437
    sharp
    Member

    This name is already taken: EXACTLY what I meant originally.

    #1023438
    sharp
    Member

    Crisis, when metal grew in the 1970’s, they were very successful. True, but there was an element of hilarity that was associated with that success. The bands back then were known for their musical illiteracy and mind-blowing stupidity.

    A turning point in the 1980’s occurred when bands switched to more traditional sing along type of songs.

    I didn’t imply that these people don’t know how to play, they do. But because they were known to be that way in their early days, this reputation kinda stuck to them. Albeit often undeserved.

    And to be an all out “metal head” is really sad. The metal ideology and culture is so morbid, some (or most) of these players / singers are associated with drug overdose and psychological and personal instability. It’s just so sad. More so with heavy metal than with any other genre.

    But of course, these are two separate arguments.

    #1023439

    @Sharp

    “And to be an all out “metal head” is really sad. The metal ideology and culture is so morbid, some (or most) of these players / singers are associated with drug overdose and psychological and personal instability.”

    Let’s not throw stones when we ourselves live in a glass house. Talk to a pharmacist in a “heimshe” neighboorhood and see how many anti depressant perscriptions are being filled.

    #1023440
    sharp
    Member

    Let’s not throw stones when we ourselves live in a glass house. Talk to a pharmacist in a “heimshe” neighboorhood and see how many anti depressant perscriptions are being filled.

    Crisis, I wasn’t throwing stones. I think you’re taking my post out of context, like you did with my previous post. How are you comparing taking anti-depressants to the heavy metal culture and ideology? Please.

    To be an all out metal head is to be totally preoccupied with heavy metal music. I think it’s sad. You don’t have to agree with me. It’s sad because of what the ideology stands for.

    Yes, they have talent, and yes, I’m sure there are plenty people on anti-depressants. And, so? It’s still sad.

    #1023441
    sharp
    Member

    Oh, I see now. I left out the word excessive. They’re associated with EXCESSIVE drug overdose and instability. More so than others.

    #1023442
    Burnt Steak
    Participant

    sharp — I don’t mean to lecture you but I’m a bit surprised that you’re actually a metal/ hard rock/ punk rock fan. (Not to be confused with rock). I’m surprised because you seem to be more sensible than that. I personally think these genres are for the musically illiterate. That’s just my opinion, I don’t mean to judge.

    I personally do not like Jewish music. I find it repetitive and bland. I can see why people like the more classical Jewish music, but I find I like things with more of a beat and less predictable musically.

    crisisoftheweek — Most lead guitarists in metal bands could teach college level classes in music theory, some on the level of Stratavarius.

    I fully agree with you on that. I have friends who play guitar (and one who is a music theory major) and most of them can not play at the level of most lead guitar player in rock groups.

    This name is already taken

    I have 2 subtitles both of which aren’t listed.

    Crisis- the ones playing it aren’t muscly illiterate, it’s the people listening to it

    I’m going to have to disagree with you on that. I’m not musically illiterate and many of my friends who listen to rock/metal also are not musically illiterate. It’s all about your tastes.

    #1023443
    just my hapence
    Participant

    crisisoftheweek –

    Most lead guitarists in metal bands could teach college level classes in music theory, some on the level of Stratavarius.

    Who was “Stratavarius”? I think you might be referring to Stradivarius but there was more than one of them (it was a family business) and they made violins, they were not musicians nor music theorists.

    #1023444
    sharp
    Member

    I personally do not like Jewish music. I find it repetitive and bland. I can see why people like the more classical Jewish music, but I find I like things with more of a beat and less predictable musically.

    Burnt Steak, I wasn’t suggesting that you listen to Jewish music. You were asking whether there are Jewish metal bands to which my response was an explanation as to why you will not find any Jewish bands. I think what you actually meant was “frum” bands. So the reason you will not find any frum Metallica bands is because of the heavy metal culture, which goes against frum ideology.

    I was also surprised that you are so into it to the extent that you wrote metal head. I’m not judging and I’m not suggesting jewish music. There are many options between Jewish music and Metallica.

    #1023445
    sharp
    Member

    I’m going to have to disagree with you on that. I’m not musically illiterate and many of my friends who listen to rock/metal also are not musically illiterate. It’s all about your tastes.

    Burnt Steak, you can’t compare rock to metal. It’s just not the same. (Unless you meant hard rock, then maybe that’s similar.)

    #1023446
    DaMoshe
    Participant

    An interesting note about Metallica is that in their early days, they were actually not into any really bad stuff. Sure, they drank lots of beer, but that was about it.

    Their lead singer started drinking more heavily shortly after their bass player died in an accident, when their tour bus flipped over from a patch of ice. When that happened, their music changed drastically, and many fans complained about the new style.

    After years of heavy drinking and substance abuse, he went to a rehab facility and turned his life around, and they’re making better music than they have in years. Not everyone who likes metal follows that “lifestyle”.

    I’d love to have some Jewish metal to listen to – and not that trash Metallish, which was just Jewish songs played with electric guitar. I mean real thrash metal, with Jewish lyrics.

    #1023447
    metrodriver
    Member

    Crisisoftheweek: (@sharp). The substance of what you’re saying is great. But your Spelling is horrible. If I may be so blunt. Please use “Spell Check”, or, better yet. Take a remedial course in English Spelling. Stat.

    #1023449
    shkoiach1
    Participant

    I’m not such a fan of metal, but I do appreciate good hard rock. Piamenta is about as heavy as it gets in authentic Jewish music. Their older stuff (like the album ‘Mitzvah’) is a great example of some good Jewish hard rock with a 70’s flavor. Check them out if you are not familiar with them. The first song on that album (mitzvah) is a fantastic song.

    #1023450
    Burnt Steak
    Participant

    shkoiach1 thanks. I’m going to check them out.

    #1023451
    shkoiach1
    Participant

    If you google piamemta mitzvah, it’s the first thing that comes up (on youtube)

    #1023453
    Yserbius123
    Participant

    You. Just. Called. RUSH. A. Metal. Band.

    #1023454
    Burnt Steak
    Participant

    Yserbius123

    Member

    You. Just. Called. RUSH. A. Metal. Band.

    Posted 9 hours ago #

    reread the post

    I also was wondering if there are any Jewish Metal bands or even if there are any _^_rock groups_^_. <—- (here) Obviously not taking about groups where singer (rush/ Disturbed) is Jewish.

    #1023455
    samocles
    Member

    hey im a jewish metalhead

    i would love to start a jewish metal band

    im actually looking for a drummer so if you know anyone who plays metal drums that would help

    #1023456
    samocles
    Member

    there was this one band called david lazzar he was pretty metal

    im not a huge fan of his stuff though

    #1023457
    samocles
    Member

    oh how i could i forget check out a band called “Gevolt”

    they have all their stuff on youtube definitely worth a veiw

    #1023458
    Bookworm120
    Participant

    In my opinion, what heavy metal (and its various subgenres) has become is simply awful noise. There’s the occasional artist who actually knows how to make discordant sounds and make it sound musical, but nowadays, most don’t.

    I think the OP was simply saying, Rush is an example of a secular band where a member is Jewish; he wasn’t suggesting that Rush is categorized under the metal genre. Rush is and does rock. 🙂

    #1023459
    Randomex
    Member

    Hey, Burnt Steak (if you’re still around), I like metal.

    Samocles beat me to the David Lazzar mention. I haven’t heard his stuff.

    Metalish is pretty much what would happen if you hired a 70s metal band to play your bar mitzvah, equipping them with sheet music (it’s all instrumental).

    Gevolt are not frum Jews or anything close to it.

    You can check out the “Yiddish-speaking Vikings” article linked to on the Wikipedia page for their album “AlefBase” to find a number of similar acts, as well as a blog dedicated to Jews and metal.

    Black Shabbis (an album) by Jamie Saft is in the same category.

    I’d go into some kind of discourse here about metal for the sake of those who aren’t familiar with it but I doubt anyone actually cares. Let ’em think we love “noise and screaming”.

    In my opinion, what heavy metal (and its various subgenres) has become is simply awful noise.

    Yes, extreme forms of metal may have become dominant in the general metalhead culture, but metal’s 40+year history is still available for the listening. And now the new thing seems to be progressive metal, and there’s a long-standing occult+/retro-metal

    thing going…

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