December 11, 2012 2:30 pm at 2:30 pm #607364
I am looking for a frum community with young families near Lakewood. I do not think my family would fit in with the Lakewood crowd but am looking for something nearby due to business. Any suggestions?December 11, 2012 2:33 pm at 2:33 pm #967386icedMember
Passaic or Clifton?December 11, 2012 2:35 pm at 2:35 pm #967387akupermaParticipant
You have New York and the rest of New Jersey to the north, and Philadelphia, Baltimore and Washington to the south. What’s the problem.December 11, 2012 3:03 pm at 3:03 pm #967388janetldd57Member
I would highly recommend the Long Branch Elberon community.It is a modern orthodox community accepting of everyone. Our shul which I proudly belong to is a very warm and welcoming community. We do have young familes who attend our local school Yeshiva at the Jersey Shore. We have kosher food right at your doorstep, restaurants, mikvah and an eruv. Our rabbi is phenomenal. Come check out Brothers of Israel in Elberon. We even have a website.December 11, 2012 3:15 pm at 3:15 pm #967389
Thank you all for the replies. Passaic or Clifton seems to be over an hour drive. My ideal scenario would be somewhere near Lakewood to cut the commute time as I currently live in Brooklyn now.December 11, 2012 3:26 pm at 3:26 pm #967390
Check out Rain Tree. It’s in Lakewood but without the quirks.December 12, 2012 3:45 am at 3:45 am #967392
janetldd57 -You must be kidding. ALMOST all the Jews there are Sefardim. Well I guess he could be a Sefardi.December 12, 2012 3:49 am at 3:49 am #967393
myls87 -“Thank you all for the replies. Passaic or Clifton seems to be over an hour drive. My ideal scenario would be somewhere near Lakewood to cut the commute time as I currently live in Brooklyn now”
Manalapan is 20 minutes from Lakewood and is a BT and/or MO community.December 12, 2012 3:54 am at 3:54 am #967394
uneeq -“Check out Rain Tree. It’s in Lakewood but without the quirks.”
So you or s/o you know lives in Raintree? I don’t live that far away. But Raintree is Ok, but I wouldn’t consider it Modern though.
The other side of the lake near R’ Gissinger’s Shul is more modern.December 12, 2012 4:20 am at 4:20 am #967395gefenParticipant
myls87- are you modern orthodox as some ppl are assuming? or are you more right wing than that or perhaps yeshivish but not quite the lakewood type? that would probably make a difference in what community you look into.December 12, 2012 5:00 am at 5:00 am #967396
Lakewood is where every Jewish person belongs.
It is an It Hatorah, the center of the universe.
You and your family will fit in if you want. Just breathing the same air that is shared with so many learner is purifying and uplifting.
If you can live in the Kodesh Hakadoshim, why would you want to live michutz lemachane like a tomei mess or a metzorah??December 12, 2012 11:08 am at 11:08 am #967397
I was in Rain Tree for a shabbos a while back and really enjoyed it. It was chilled out and relaxing. I stayed at friend that loves it there and isn’t yeshivish at all and is even leaning modern.
I have another friend that lives there that isn’t yeshivish that likes it there. My totally unyeshivish brother would live there if his wife would let.
The question remains, what are you looking for?December 12, 2012 12:31 pm at 12:31 pm #967398HaKatanParticipant
shmendrick, I presume your post was serious, offensive as it is.
The answer to your question is that, for starters, if you will be a better oveid Hashem elsewhere then you are obligated to NOT live in Lakewood and to live in whatever place that is, much as it would be nice to breathe in the air of all that learning in Lakewood. Yours is a question based on what’s known in learning as an emotional sevara.December 12, 2012 3:00 pm at 3:00 pm #967399
Hakatan: Please don’t feed the troll.December 12, 2012 4:09 pm at 4:09 pm #967400
I do not consider myself mo-dox. I grew up and live in Flatbush, went to all “regular” yeshivas and am now a working, colored shirt wearing, bal habus who is kovea itim on a daily basis and loves learning.December 12, 2012 4:58 pm at 4:58 pm #967401icedMember
myis: so why do you think you wouldn’t fit in with the Lakewood crowd?December 12, 2012 5:03 pm at 5:03 pm #967402
I think you would fit fine in Rain Tree. But don’t take my word for it, check it out well before you make any decisions.
Is there anyone from that neighborhood in this forum?December 12, 2012 5:49 pm at 5:49 pm #967403R.T.Participant
“Lakewood is where every Jewish person belongs.
It is an It Hatorah, the center of the universe.”
Now be careful. Where have I heard this before? (a refresher in medievel and contemporary history would be in short order)
Tell me Shmendrick, what do you say in Shmonai Esrai? VeLYerusahlayim Ere’cha or VeLakewood Ere’cha?
I can not answer the OP’s question (I live in Canada). But there are many wonderful Mekomot Torahs in the tri state area (from my travels) to choose from.December 12, 2012 8:08 pm at 8:08 pm #967404janetldd57Member
Yes there are a lot of sephardim but I belong to a modern orthodox Ashkenaz shul which is very friendly,warm and welcoming.When we came back from California we moved back to the same community because we loved it so much. Yeshiva at the Jersey Shore is an Ashkenaz yeshiva which is phenomenal.December 13, 2012 1:09 pm at 1:09 pm #967406YatzmichMember
Be smart & stay as far away from Lakewood as you can. The OTD rate for teens is climbing fast. Even for pre-teens. It’s rediculous. And Tznious? Forget about it. The women’s clothing is getting tighter & shorter by the week. Even by the “yeshivisha” people.
And as far as getting your kids in to schools in Lakewood, be prepared to be humiliated and degraded and thrown from one bin to another.December 13, 2012 5:29 pm at 5:29 pm #967407
Yatzmich -“And as far as getting your kids in to schools in Lakewood, be prepared to be humiliated and degraded and thrown from one bin to another.”
Excuse me. Not if you have a lot of money and then they will be chasing after you.December 13, 2012 6:05 pm at 6:05 pm #967408golferParticipant
Hakatan– What?? He was serious?? Impossible!
Shmendrick– LOL! Thanks! You gave me my first good belly laugh of the day. (If you frequent the internet – although that may also imply you are wearing a colored shirt – you may find the relevant medical articles suggesting you also boosted my immune system and provided me with a host of other health benefits.)December 14, 2012 1:30 am at 1:30 am #967409
golfer – “if you frequent the interner…” are you implying that you weren’t at the Asifa or that I do ot follow the call of gedolim against the tumah of internet?December 14, 2012 3:15 am at 3:15 am #967410yaakov doeParticipant
Yatzmich “The women’s clothing is getting tighter & shorter by the week. Even by the “yeshivisha” people”
Sounds like Flatbush, Marine Park or the 5 towns to me. I thought that tznius in Iyar Hacodesh were better.December 14, 2012 5:58 am at 5:58 am #967411YatzmichMember
Sorry YD, it’s the truth. The “Lakewood” stereotype is changing fast.December 14, 2012 6:10 am at 6:10 am #967412
YatzmichMy knee jerk reaction would be to call you out for exaggerating and stereotyping, until I remembered that, unfortunately, you’re not so far off from reality.December 14, 2012 1:09 pm at 1:09 pm #967413147Participant
First things first. Make sure that the neighborhood is on very high ground, way above sea level. This case you shall IY’H never have to worry about any futures coastal flooding nor hurricanes.
This also shall be a wonderful opportunity to fulfill first hand, the Mitzwah of “vNishmartem Me’od lNafshoseichem”December 14, 2012 4:34 pm at 4:34 pm #967414zahavasdadParticipant
Lakewood is in a flood zone. I dont think it flooded for Hurricane Sandy, but parts did flood for Hurricane Irene last yearDecember 16, 2012 1:04 am at 1:04 am #967415
The Torah learning of Lakewood protects the entire city from all calamities.
Reb Moshe was once told that a child was injured by a car in front of his apartment building. He immediately said that the child is not Jewish. When it was discovered that ineed the child was a non-Jew, Reb Moshe said that his learning Torah is a shmirah, and no Jewish child could have gotten hurt in front of his apartment.
Lakewood is a bayis ma’aleh seforim, it has the shemirah of Torah learning which saves from any gashmiyus or ruchniyus danger.
Just as there was no mabul in Eretz Yisroel – it is poshut that there was no flooding in Lakewood!December 16, 2012 11:49 pm at 11:49 pm #967416ThePurpleOneMember
how about edison? its a really gorgous place and i think its pretty close to lakewood..December 17, 2012 3:52 am at 3:52 am #967417N.GMember
Hopefully you are not going to move were The Coffee Room think you should move. Do not relay on The Coffee Room.December 17, 2012 4:05 am at 4:05 am #967418mommamia22Participant
“…no Jewish child could have gotten hurt in front of his apartment.”
And what of the Fogel family???
Was their Torah learning and mesiras nefesh not a shmirah for them?!?!December 17, 2012 4:36 am at 4:36 am #967419WIYMember
Don’t feed the trolls they are fat enough already.December 17, 2012 5:10 am at 5:10 am #967420
“It is an Ir Hatorah”
It was an Ir Hatorah before people who waste their time in the Coffee room moved there.
Living in the Kodesh Hakadoshim requires requires a much higher standard. Most people actually need the down time in the CR or other Kosher diversions.
Most people should realize that their living in the Kodesh Hakadoshim will dilute the intense Kedusha, and not move there.December 19, 2012 9:57 pm at 9:57 pm #967421
Josh31 – “Living in the Kodesh Hakadoshim requires requires a much higher standard… Most people should realize that their living in the Kodesh Hakadoshim will dilute the intense Kedusha, and not move there.”
Following the path of your logic you probably would advocate against most yidden moving to Eretz Hakodesh. since it would “dilute the intense kedusha”. The road you follow leads to strange destinations!
On the contrary, the kedushas hamokm uplifts the inhabitants! If someone is lacking kedusha, he should go to a mokom kodosh. In Lakewood the air is full of kedusha, the gravel is walked on by talmidei chachomim, and it is a zchus to walk in their dust. In the supermarket I am mechabed chochomim by letting them check out ahead of me. When driving and arriving at an intersection, I always let the Torah Yidden go ahead of me. And being a Torah Yid and a kollel person, I expect the same courtesy back.December 20, 2012 4:11 am at 4:11 am #967422
shmendrick -“In the supermarket I am mechabed chochomim by letting them check out ahead of me. When driving and arriving at an intersection, I always let the Torah Yidden go ahead of me.”
So I’ll give you a picture of me and my car so you can do that to me also. I’m obviously a much bigger Talmid Chochom than you and I proved it in the topic of “saying Good Shabbos on Fri.”
Also, you should support me financially because of my learning which is much better than yours!December 20, 2012 7:25 am at 7:25 am #967423
“and a kollel person”
I hope you are lying.
I cannot believe that a serious Lakewood Torah learner posts as shmendrick.
A man who messes things up, always loses and feels miserable. An unfortunate. Closely related to Schlemazel and Schlemiell….
If you do any learning change your posting name!!!December 20, 2012 7:53 am at 7:53 am #967424aurora77Participant
Whenever I hear those three Yiddish words, I think of the Three Stooges! 🙂December 20, 2012 2:27 pm at 2:27 pm #967425
“Following the path of your logic you probably would advocate against most yidden moving to Eretz Hakodesh. since it would “dilute the intense kedusha”. “
Per Mishna near beginning of Kelim there are 10 steps of Kedusha between Eretz Hakodesh and Kodesh HaKodashim.
We (including the Kohen Gadol) are expected to live most of our lives within the lower levels.December 20, 2012 2:39 pm at 2:39 pm #967426zahavasdadParticipant
I have lots of family in Lakewood and not only do they not have internet, they wont even hold my smart phoneDecember 20, 2012 6:50 pm at 6:50 pm #967427WIYMember
They must be very yeshivish and really “shtark” or just playing you because I know many Lakewood people and this is not the norm.December 20, 2012 7:16 pm at 7:16 pm #967428
WIY -“They must be very yeshivish and really “shtark” or just playing you because I know many Lakewood people and this is not the norm.”
I think he might be related to a RY of BMG. And it is the norm for many from BMG.December 20, 2012 7:37 pm at 7:37 pm #967429TheBearIsBackMember
Schmendrick is obviously joking or tee-rolling (or treading a fine line between the two).
Schmendrick is the name of a loser character in a Yiddish play, and it entered Yinglish (the old language of the Lower East Side more than today’s yeshivisher raid or Chassidish Aynglish-Lipa loshon) as yet another term for an incompetent jerk.
I have a friend and a former business associate whose names are the same, both beginning with a Sh. As my associate was, well, a schmendrick, I changed said associate’s first name to Schmendrick in my cell phone book so I would not inadvertently take his calls or pass up on my friend’s calls. (I still had to call him a couple of times to collect past due monies that he was holding before I changed my number and moved on.)
I also refer to a certain failed blogger as Schmendrick, even fooling people into believing that in Chernovitz, where my roots are, Schmendrick was the common nickname for Shmarya (vehamayvin yavin as to who I mean).December 20, 2012 7:49 pm at 7:49 pm #967430popa_bar_abbaParticipant
“a certain failed blogger”
lolDecember 20, 2012 8:03 pm at 8:03 pm #967431TheBearIsBackMember
No one who has a smartphone is less than smart enough to refer to it as smart phone.
The Teeroller Chassidim are out in full force today. I guess they think there won’t be anywhere to troll tomorrow. Believing that is only a little less krum than what some Teerollers do profess to believe.December 21, 2012 5:07 pm at 5:07 pm #967432
Josh31 “A man who messes things up, always loses and feels miserable. An unfortunate. Closely related to Schlemazel and Schlemiell….If you do any learning change your posting name!!!”
This is a perfect example of the clash between Torah views and secular attitudes. Avrohom, Moshe and Dovid said about themselves that they are Dust, Earth, Ash. I am not on such a madreiga to consider myself like that, but I feel I can be called a “loser, miserable and unfortunate”. That is a level that secular thinking cannot adopt.
Come join the bais medrash and shtyg a few days and you will start thinking with daas Torah.December 21, 2012 5:09 pm at 5:09 pm #967433
Health – you seemed to have guessed who I am, yes, related to RY. Now you can speal with more derech eretz.December 24, 2012 4:21 am at 4:21 am #967434
shmendrick -“Health – you seemed to have guessed who I am, yes, related to RY. Now you can speal with more derech eretz.”
Why do you think I was talking about you? I was actually refering to ZDad. I don’t know who you are, nor do I care to, unless you want to give me some money for straightening you out here in the CR.January 25, 2013 2:39 am at 2:39 am #967435ShiraTobalaMember
I heard that there are MO people living in LakewoodJanuary 25, 2013 6:08 pm at 6:08 pm #967436thepulselakewoodMember
Maybe try deal!!!!
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