November 9, 2010 3:30 pm at 3:30 pm #592956
Boruch Hashem, both in Eretz Yisroel and Chutz Loaretz, there is major population growths. Soon, Eretz Yisroel will be mostly frum. The secular population have realized this and are scared of their boots. How does the coffee room see the practicalities of a frum majority?November 9, 2010 3:38 pm at 3:38 pm #708190Feif UnParticipant
Actually, the birth rate of the arabs in Israel is higher than the frum community. In time, the arabs will be the majority.November 9, 2010 6:21 pm at 6:21 pm #708191myfriendMember
Baruch Hashem. We should continue as strong.November 9, 2010 6:23 pm at 6:23 pm #708192ronrsrMember
is it good that the secular community is scared of this? I don’t think so. What does the future hold for a country living in fear of their countrymen?
I don’t see how that benefits anyone living in Israel, frum or otherwise.November 9, 2010 6:25 pm at 6:25 pm #708193SacrilegeMember
IY”H by me 😀November 9, 2010 6:35 pm at 6:35 pm #708194SJSinNYCMember
Ronsr, I don’t think they are scared. I think they are worried how financially it will work out, since the more religious you are in Israel, the more you generally rely on government services.
Having lots of children can be a blessing…but if you don’t care for them properly, it can turn into a big negative.November 9, 2010 6:58 pm at 6:58 pm #708195
I think I was misunderstood. My discussion isnt if it is good or bad, no duh its good. But imagine if all Eretz Yisroel was frum? That would have major ramifications. Would there be an army? How would people make money? And what would be with the Arabs? Interesting to ponder. May moshiach come soon.November 9, 2010 7:00 pm at 7:00 pm #708196
And imagine in the states, if New York had a 20% frum population. How would the goyim react?November 9, 2010 7:03 pm at 7:03 pm #708197gavra_at_workParticipant
May moshiach come soon.
Amain.November 9, 2010 7:36 pm at 7:36 pm #708198charliehallParticipant
I’m not sure this is going to happen. Birthrates have been high for 60 years but the Ashkenazic Charedi parties still have the same five seats in the Knesset as they had 60 years ago. There seems to be a lot of going off the derech.November 10, 2010 5:08 pm at 5:08 pm #708200fabieMember
Charlie – There was no Shas party at that time, and the immigration from the former Soviet Bloc was 99% non-frum. The Ashkenazi frum have still been growing by the numbers.November 11, 2010 8:20 am at 8:20 am #708201MoqMember
I think they are worried how financially it will work out, since the more religious you are in Israel, the more you generally rely on government services.
Charedim are less then half of the religious population in Eretz Yisrael. And even amoungst the Charedim, B”H the working population has grown to about 50%. Not true.
The leftist secular askenzai world is scared of anyone taking away their monopoly on Israeli power – hence, the merciless racism towards sephardim religious or not, Russian Olim (ask Lieberman & Aryeh Deri).
I think you are falling into their media trap.
And by the way…do you know what benefits they are referring to, or how much they cost?November 11, 2010 5:57 pm at 5:57 pm #708202nfgo3Member
I cannot understand why the growth of the frum population in EY should make the non-frum afraid of their footwear. The frum should be concerned about the relative shrinkage of the working population of the State of Israel – someone has to pay the taxes and serve in the IDF. Hashem put us in this world, in part, to provide for ourselves.
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