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    What did Gamers do before the invention of video games?

    Did today’s gaming people transfer their skills from another occupation to the world of video and computer gaming?

    Thank you


    Most of today’s gaming people did not exist when there were no video games. But board games have been around for millenia.

    Video games were created by the yetzer hara to divert people from Torah study.


    What did programmers do before computers were invented? More seriously, board/card
    games have existed for millennia. (Most “gamers” don’t earn a living through gaming.)


    Yes, video games were created by the yetzer hara… just like computers, cell phones, newspapers, board games, and the internet (which, in case you don’t know, you are currently on)


    (That was sarcasm, by the way)


    Ummm, I’m not a gamer, but I will speak on behalf of gaming in general and say that we’re likely alive because of gaming, because someone somewhere is using a video game to ensure our safety in battle… because today war is fought by young men and women who grew up gaming… and there are gamers who live and die to ensure the freedom of their country… Thank you.

    Lilmod Ulelamaid

    “Yes, video games were created by the yetzer hara… just like computers, cell phones, newspapers, board games, and the internet (which, in case you don’t know, you are currently on)”

    “(That was sarcasm, by the way)”

    I’m sure that DovidBT is willing to admit that he has a yetzer hara.


    @Lightbrite umm… what?


    @Lilmod Ulelamaid that wasn’t the point


    aguywithdetermination: The military uses video game-like programs to train soldiers. Don’t airplane pilots train with video game-like programs too?


    I don’t know… But this sounds interesting


    “What do pilots, soldiers and surgeons have in common?

    Answer: They all work in professions where the cost of failure can be severe. And because of this, they are three professions that make heavy use of interactive simulations and what are known as “serious games”.

    The situations they deal with are unpredictable so they can’t just use standard responses. As situations unfold they have to think quick, and do the right thing. That takes lots of practice, and lots of learning from failure in order to see what works and what does not.” (CIO dot com)


    Surgeons and butchers have to be skilled at using knives. That doesn’t mean that as teenagers, they should join a gang that engages in knife fights.


    That comparison makes no sense


    DovidBT… no one is saying that.

    You know, I learned something really amazing growing up from a video game.

    My sibling was playing a mystery spy video game where he had to figure out clues to get to get keys to move to the next room, and then the next level.

    He was really good at it, and I used to just watch. Sometimes, I would play too.

    One time, when he left the room, and put the game on pause, I wasn’t supposed to touch anything. But, I wanted to try. For days, he was stuck at some high level, trying to figure out how to get there key.

    So, I was a novice and didn’t know the rules. After clicking on a bunch of objects or something, I just went to open the door, and rhe door opened! Just like that. No key.

    My sibling came back to the room, astonished.

    How did I find the key?!

    Huh? I just walked to the door and pressed the button. That was it. I made it to the next level.

    Lesson: Sometimes the door is open for us, but we may be so used to jumping through hoops that we don’t realize that we can just walk right in without a special key — just turn the knob, just like that.

    There’s likely many more lessons that I learned from that game. Anyway, some video games help sharpen your mind. You learn how to work with your friends too. Granted, yes, there are other ways to learn such lessons.

    But still, not all video games are violent.

    Sadly, the games many kids play today are violent, though.


    True…although the ESRB does exist…most parents don’t seem to care


    The real world is violent. At least in games the violence doesn’t actually hurt people.


    Varius games (board games, cards, dice – and sports) have been around since ancient times. The proof is there are books complaining about the resulting the bitul Torah. The younger generation did not invent Bitul Torah.


    Gamer doesn’t just refer to video gamers. Tabletop (board/card/etc) game players are also known as gamers.


    Are they really?

    So your very-into-Mahjong-playing friend is also a gamer?

    What if you know someone who plays Candy Crush? Is that person also a gamer?

    Sometimes I play Mole Word or Sudoku (once a month on avg if I remember). I do it as a brain exercise. Am I a gamer?


    Not at all

    People who play candy crush and call themselves gamers are an insult to actual gamers


    The precise definition of “gamer” and how much significance “gamer” status has or should have are, shall we say, subject to dispute.


    (The video-game culture’s term for non-gamers who play games is “casual,” used as a noun.
    Single-game devotees like mahjongg friend are only a tabletop phenomenon, and that culture
    cares a lot less about the label.)


    Not necessarily.

    To say “I am a Gamer” implies that I play games as my main hobby and it is my main source of fun.

    Mobile games are filled with ads, microtransactions, and are (mostly) not professionally made.

    If someone were to say “I play candy crush so I’m a gamer” he is insulting all gamers by associating himself (who plays the lowest form of what can be considered video game) with people that actually appreciate the value of a $60 game and are willing to pay it for actual fun. Not ads, microtransactions, made to addict, and all around unprofessional games


    So Mobile games aren’t even considered video games by actual gamers. It isn’t even called casual


    We’ve got a live specimen, folks.


    Your point?

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