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May 3, 2022 9:30 am at 9:30 am #2081990MenachemFivenbirmbaumParticipant
It costs me $70 to fill up my 2006 Toyota Corolla. This is outrageous. Bidens fault for sure.May 3, 2022 11:38 am at 11:38 am #2082323akupermaParticipant
The Democrats promised to do something to force people to stop consuming gasoline. Raising prices is one way. This reflects a quasi-religious belief that carbon emissions are a threat to human existence. The Democrats won the election (fair and square, with a bit of help from Trump’s bungling), and they are keeping their campaign promises. Biden keeps his promises – blame the voters who elected him.
Also if you are pay $70/tank for a not too big car, you should consider moving to a state that support pipelines, refineries and therefore, lower gas prices.May 3, 2022 12:46 pm at 12:46 pm #2082344
if you’re paying $70 to fill a Corolla I would have the gas tank check for leaks, In any event I would not be worried if I was you being that your father pays your bills.May 3, 2022 12:50 pm at 12:50 pm #2082356jackkParticipant
The oil companies making tremendous profits this year such as ExxonMobil, Chevron, ConocoPhillips, Occidental Petroleum etc are glad that people blame democrats while they laugh straight to the bank.May 3, 2022 3:47 pm at 3:47 pm #2082418ujmParticipant
Jackk, are you suggesting that America adopt Soviet/communist/socialist style price controls?May 3, 2022 6:59 pm at 6:59 pm #2082533
you voted you payMay 3, 2022 7:00 pm at 7:00 pm #2082536
no that is not true i know plenty of people that do the sameMay 3, 2022 7:00 pm at 7:00 pm #2082537
take them downMay 3, 2022 8:54 pm at 8:54 pm #2082561
@real truth, what is?May 3, 2022 8:56 pm at 8:56 pm #2082565jackkParticipant
I suggest not blaming the democrats or Biden for what capitalist companies are doing.May 3, 2022 9:22 pm at 9:22 pm #2082575yaakov doeParticipant
Has anyone looked at the oil companies earnings?May 3, 2022 9:23 pm at 9:23 pm #2082584ujmParticipant
You didn’t answer the question. Are you opposed to capitalism?May 3, 2022 10:14 pm at 10:14 pm #2082611Sam KleinParticipant
So buy a Tesla car instead and you won’t have to spend any money on Gas and instead just sit there charging up your car all dayMay 3, 2022 10:23 pm at 10:23 pm #2082631
It is interesting how D-s like jackk first break the market by their policies and then blame the market for these problems and suggest communist policies as a solution. Paraphrasing R Akiva’s moshal about a fish and a fox – if we are scared what the market can do, how worse it will be without it.May 4, 2022 9:43 am at 9:43 am #2082798hujuParticipant
Gasoline prices have long reflected the world price for crude oil, and there is no evidence that this has changed. When world oil prices come down, so will gasoline prices.
As for paying $70 to fill a Toyota Corolla: You are supposed to fill the tank, not the whole car. Don’t use the cigarette lighter.May 4, 2022 11:11 am at 11:11 am #2082854WolfishMusingsParticipant
Bidens fault for sure.
The President of the US, whether he’s a Democrat or Republican, has very little effect on the price of gasoline. None of this is Biden’s fault or Trump’s fault.
If it makes you feel any better, feel free to blame me.
The WolfMay 4, 2022 3:20 pm at 3:20 pm #2082960
As Common Saychel noted, you are either the world’s worst troll or you need to have an up close and intimate encounter with your local Toyota dealer. Alternatively, you are a great baal tzadakah to benefit some ehrliche yid running an overpriced gas station on Central Avenue.
Further, as Wolfish noted, in a global market for crude oil and distillates, no President really has any significant ability to affect gasoline prices on a national level, although certain policies (e.g. EPA rules on seasonal ethanol blends) could have short-term localized effects.May 4, 2022 3:25 pm at 3:25 pm #2082962
Why exactly is it so hard to believe he is paying $5 a gallon?
I’m paying 4.89 or more depending on the day.May 4, 2022 4:02 pm at 4:02 pm #2082966
for a Toyota Carrola it would be closer to $6 a gallon, I paid $4.09 yesterdayMay 4, 2022 4:54 pm at 4:54 pm #2083010
Average (regular) gasoline prices in the NYC metro area last week were $4.12. An older Toyota Corolla gas tank capacity is about 12.8 gallons. Assuming you were not one of those nitwits who lets the tank go to 99 percent empty before filling, the price should have been closer to $50, not $70.May 4, 2022 5:44 pm at 5:44 pm #2083053hujuParticipant
To Gadolha Dorah: Please don’t call my wife a nitwit.May 4, 2022 5:45 pm at 5:45 pm #2083055
GH – wow, thanks for clarifying that if gas in NY gas prices are 4.12 a gallon he can’t be paying more than that. Silly me.
Oh, and about your nitwit comment, guess your too entitled to be aware that some people, even with college degrees, don’t have enough money to avoid that happening sometimes. Nitwit indeed.May 4, 2022 8:43 pm at 8:43 pm #2083097
Huju: Maybe its a varbeshe thing but running a $50,000 vehicle on a near-empty gas tank demonstrates real empathy with your local dealer’s service department since running on fumes doesn’t provide a means of lubricating the fuel pump (which also uses fuel) increases the chances of the engine overheating and assuring that dirt and sediment at the bottom of the tank will get drawn into the gas pump. Otherwise its a great idea.
Even if cost is a concern, fill it up halfway and generally don’t let the tank go below 1/4 full. Totally separate is the risk factor of her running out of gas on the Belt Parkway late at night or driving around yenavelt searching for an open gas station.May 5, 2022 12:20 am at 12:20 am #2083145
Syag > some people, even with college degrees, don’t have enough money to avoid that happening sometimes.
Seems that B’H you are doing ok and this is just a theoretical thing for you. Having mess money does not lead to filling a full tank, Kids noticed at the gas station what people actually started doing – filling in just several gallons and continue going.May 5, 2022 12:21 am at 12:21 am #2083147
To bring a religious angle here: one reason for avodah zara is people’s inability to connect things to the source – they are looking for some immediate source of fire or water or parnasa. So, among other middos, a religious person requires daas that helps him appreciate how events in the world connect back to the Prime Source. Without such daas, one might be ortho-prax just because he is trained to mumble brochos, bot not ortho-dox. So, when some people can not connect obvious things, such as government making oil business harder to increased gas prices shows that they can’t properly connect their life to Hashem also.May 5, 2022 12:25 am at 12:25 am #2083183
Seems that B’H you are doing ok and this is just a theoretical thing for you.
from where do you come up with that? from what does it “seem” that way>May 5, 2022 12:46 am at 12:46 am #2083215
from what you don’t know what poor people do: they don’t buy gas in bulk, they buy a couple of gallons, see above. As another lady said “let them eat cake”May 5, 2022 12:49 am at 12:49 am #2083223
you make no sense. Im the one who pointed that out to GH who said let them eat cake. I had even written and erased that to her. Nothing in my post said poor people buy in bulk. I said not everyone can afford to buy gas before they absolutely need it. where do you see me saying they buy in bulk?May 5, 2022 1:16 am at 1:16 am #2083239n0mesorahParticipant
All I’m suggesting is not allowing oil futures to be traded publicly. Please run that by an economist first. At this point I wouldn’t want to be responsible for crashing the dollar. Or maybe the mods would ask an economist before they allow this post through.May 5, 2022 10:25 am at 10:25 am #2083358
Once again – misquote someone, pretend they said something they didn’t and disappear when asked to back it up. More than a pattern, a lifestyle perhaps? Just makes me wonder how many other people you quote never said those things either.May 6, 2022 12:45 am at 12:45 am #2083803
Syag > where do you see me saying they buy in bulk?
Deduction? It was mentioned $70 gas, so presumably a full tank, not a couple of gallons, but I did not check the prices for a couple of days (feels like Weimar)May 6, 2022 12:45 am at 12:45 am #2083806
n0 > All I’m suggesting is not allowing oil futures to be traded publicly.
that’s an interesting question … Nixon tried price controls .. There are Jewish sources for not increasing prices during emergencies on necessities, and arguably gas is one for people who need to get somewhere important.
On the other hand, price sends a signal. Germany just announced that “in solidarity with UKR” they’ll reduce water temperature in their pool by 2 deg (C). I guess, 3 would be too much of a sacrifice, but 2 might reduce ammunition RUS can make and save some lives. High price will naturally send the same signal and make people use less of it. Also, you don’t want to start a black market of people smuggling subsidized oil into other places.May 6, 2022 1:04 am at 1:04 am #2083819
I said some people let their tanks run near empty because they don’t have money. You said that I must not understand poor people because they don’t buy in bulk.
Do you just type with your eyes closed?May 6, 2022 1:35 pm at 1:35 pm #2083926
You miss the point. Its not telling them to “eat cake”. Even for a “poor” person, the financial risk of damaging his/her vehicle by letting the gas tank run close to empty would outweigh concerns for the few dollars “saved” by keeping the tank at 1/4 full. Most people need their car to get to work and don’t have the option of using a second car or rental vehicle while there car is in the shop. Just ask any dealer as to the charges for replacing a damaged fuel pump which is the most frequent damage they’ve been seeing as people let their fuel tanks run down to empty.
Just make believe 1/4 tank is the new “empty” and fill up in small increments above that level if that is all you can afford. For many people, their car is essential to their parnassah.May 6, 2022 1:42 pm at 1:42 pm #2083947
Are you for real? A few dollars “saved? I’m talking about not having a few dollars. Your car won’t suffer from being fed when it nears empty. And money you don’t have to spend, isn’t money “saved”. Wow, you have a lot to be thankful for in your life. Ignorance appears to be bliss – unless you use it to put others down.May 6, 2022 2:03 pm at 2:03 pm #2083954
Syag: We are talking past one another (so whats new?). Obviously, there are times everyone will run low on gas or not have funds to fill up the tank.
I’ll try one more time. If you can only afford to fill up the tank in small increments, do so against a 1/4 tank baseline versus empty. The cost for each small refill will be the SAME but you don’t do so playing Russian roulette with you personal safety and risking vehicle damage.
End of story.May 6, 2022 2:07 pm at 2:07 pm #2083958
yes, when we discuss matters that you do not have a reference for we end up talking past each other. It might help to understand that you lack a reference and try hearing what is being said. It’s called learning another persons perspective. Or, there is always the option of assuming you’re just right and moving on…. happy trailsMay 8, 2022 12:22 am at 12:22 am #2084143
Gadol, thanks for the tip to not go low on gas. I presume you have a good mesorah for this. Are you sure this is still true in this century with new tech? I have this bad habit but most of my cars fall apart way before having engine problems
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