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  • #2114191
    commonsaychel
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    @ jackk, yup all of the above make me and anyone else with a brain feel great when we pay our grocery bill that doubled since Brandon took over

    #2114283
    Gadolhadorah
    Participant

    “yup all of the above make me and anyone else with a brain feel great when we pay our grocery bill that doubled since Brandon took over…”

    Clearly, you don’t fall within the peer group referenced in your post since anyone with a brain can easily access the Department of Agriculture and Bureau of Labor Statistics websites and confirm that food prices have NOT increased by 100 percent since January 2021. The actual increase as of June 2022 varies between 14% and 17% depending on which metric you use to measure typical
    “basket” of groceries for family of 4.

    #2114304
    jackk
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    CS,

    There are many benefits for Americans from the bills that passed and from killing Ayman al-Zawahiri.

    What would you like congress to do so about your grocery bill ?
    I am waiting for the R’s to stop complaining and offer a bill that will lower your grocery bill.
    Or maybe we should become communists and dictate prices for grocery ?

    #2114398
    commonsaychel
    Participant

    Jackk, Let’s go Brandon!!

    #2114410
    🍫Syag Lchochma
    Participant

    CS – shame on you! Can’t you just celebrate that even tho we are paying over $5 per gallon there is some joe schmo out there who isn’t?

    #2114414
    🍫Syag Lchochma
    Participant

    jackk – “I am waiting for the R’s to stop complaining and offer a bill that will lower your grocery bill.”

    this last point is not a bad one. And I’m not here to offer any as it aint my area of knowledge. I think what is being expressed here is that there weren’t very good reasons to have brought it up so high in the first place. I don’t expect you to agree, I am just making the point that sometimes there is a crisis that requires everyone to come up with a solution for, and sometimes there is a crisis that many believe could have been avoided in the first place.

    #2114447
    jackk
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    Syag,

    Everyone is welcome to express their opinions.
    I do not consider a “Lets go Brandon” as a opinion .
    I do not consider a “food prices are high” as a response to a post about ” the 3 weeks that Biden and Democrats ( and with some Republican help) were able to seal the deal on a few bills that are major initiatives.” I never said they weren’t. I live here too and I pay the same prices as you.

    In a humorous vein, you should be careful about quoting gas prices because AAQ will double check you and if you are off by even less than a penny he will call you out.

    #2114466

    Jackk, are you claiming that because you were cheating by less than a perutah, we should still consider you an honest person? Unfortunately your claim is not valid because you are cheating again saying you cheated by less of a penny as you were off by 1.6 pennies

    #2114514
    commonsaychel
    Participant

    @Jackk, Lets go Brandon is indeeed an opinion, you may not like it

    #2115409
    The Real Truth
    Participant

    Today’s AAA
    National Average

    $3.956

    Price as of
    8/15/22
    Today’s AAA
    Florida Avg.

    $3.641

    Price as of
    8/15/22Today’s AAA
    New York Avg.

    $4.340

    Price as of
    8/15/22

    #2116353
    🍫Syag Lchochma
    Participant

    $5.19 for a month

    #2116367
    ☕️coffee addict
    Participant

    Below $4 as of August 18

    #2117431
    jackk
    Participant

    Today’s AAA
    National $3.901
    Florida $3.528
    New York $4.248

    President Biden approval rating by the conservative Rasmussen –
    47%. I can’t wait for a title from YWN – How high can he go?

    #2117434
    commonsaychel
    Participant

    Lets go Brandon is indeed an opinion, you may not like it

    #2117454

    jackk,
    where do you find in Jewish books permission to mislead other people? You are measuring the sea level by the highest wave.

    There are always multiple polls and you can find a one you like.
    Biden’s average is 41%, indeed 5% above his absolute lowest of 36% a month ago and a little below of his previous plato of 42%. I suspect this is mostly due to progressives coming home and increased enthusiasm among them. Meanwhile, average house margin (538) went from R +6% to R +4% so you have something to be optimistic about.

    #2117627
    jackk
    Participant

    CS,
    “Let’s go Brandon” is not an opinion. It’s an infantile and immature slogan.
    Saying “I disagree with Biden’s bill that now allows medicare to negotiate drug prices in order to make them more affordable” is an opinion .

    AAQ,
    “where do you find in Jewish books permission to mislead other people?” I find them in the same books that the editors of YWN read to allow them to not only print misleading info but to editorialize the info with adjectives like “shocking”.
    (Ergo, unless it’s an argument in politics, I would never do it.)
    I 100% agree with you about multiple polls and I never consider any them of too much value.
    I am not optimistic or pessimistic about November. I will deal with the reality when it arrives.

    To paraphrase Rush Limbaugh (a person I despise) after Bill Clinton won the election in 1992 – Doesn’t make a difference we lost. Either way I will have a lot to talk about on my program. ( And in a wink off air to bo snerdley “and we will make tens of millions of dollars “.)

    #2117781
    commonsaychel
    Participant

    Jackk its shorthand for saying I pretty much despise the man who cause the highest inflation in 40 years, among a bunch of other things.
    Lets go Brandon!!!

    #2117828

    Jackk > unless it’s an argument in politics, I would never do it.

    I admire your admission. To paraphrase Berdichever: look how kodesh your children are, Eibishte – they’ll admit anything in order not to lie. Except this is ot working in the case of admitting to lying.

    There is a little red book “Lying for truth” by (at that time) young unknown author that I appreciated and used to leave in shuls and lots of people would grab it in order to find some kulos, I guess, but then put it back disappointed… After listing possible kulos from Gemora, the book ends with a caveat from Besht: you can’t use these kulos if you have ever said impermissible lie.

    This fun discussion raises a serious issue of current assimilation in general culture. We used to be afraid of avoda zora, then of olympic games, then of churches, then of universities and lack of tzniyut, but we are now assimilating discourse values from media and making this approach to truth acceptable. People who think that they can bend the truth in some issues but not in others are deluding themselves. Soon, you’ll be talking about Torah same way and soon we will not be able to read books about gedolim 100 years ago and not know what is truth or not (see another thread).

    #2117838

    Rabeinu Yona puts 9 categories of lying (1 is the worst). Discussion here relates to
    4) People who fabricate stories merely for the sake of lying
    9) People who change minor details when retelling an episode.

    This is somewhat unexpected. I thought lying for the sake of it should be below items 5-8 (below).
    I surmise is is because pointless lying shows love of lying and developing a habit.

    5. People who hold out the promise of giving another person material goods while never intending to follow up on their promise;
    6. People who intend to keep a promise but do not honor their commitment;
    7. People who claim that they did a favor or a good deed for another when in fact they have not;
    8. People who praise themselves for virtues that they do not possess;

    #2119915
    jackk
    Participant

    Current AAA gas prices
    National 3.844
    Florida 3.622

    #2119918
    jackk
    Participant

    AAQ,

    The truth is you must love giving mussar because I read my post and I cannot see any misleading.

    I quoted the Rasmussen poll. I didn’t say anything else.

    You really should reserve your mussar for people who straight away lie.

    It is ubiquitous. Don’t even need to be a Bochen Lev VClayos.

    #2119950

    jackk> I quoted the Rasmussen poll. I didn’t say anything else. I quoted the Rasmussen poll. I didn’t say anything else. You really should reserve your mussar for people who straight away lie.

    Jackk, thanks for asking. I called your post on Rasmussen “misleading”. Genivat daas is defined when you cause someone to form an untruthful picture of the world.

    A classical example is opening a new barrel of wine in honor of a guest. If you ran out of wine and open it when the guest came in … Or students coming for a walk and meeting a teacher. He thanks them for the kavod. They do NOT have to correct his impression, as he is “misleading himself” – there was no logical reason for them to know that he is coming.

    In this case, you are quoting a poll – why? To create a certain impression. The poll appears to be an outlier. You could have put a caveat that there is a hopeful poll … I realize that by American standards, your post is pretty kosher, but you are talking here with serious people who would not eat with a heksher that was questionable 30 years ago, so you don’t want to get a bad reputation!

    #2120081
    jackk
    Participant

    AAQ,

    I enjoy when you add divrei torah to your posts.
    I would compare my case of quoting the Rasmussen poll as a case of “misleading himself”. There is no logical reason for anyone to think a single Rasmussen poll quoted by Jack K is cited for any reason other than because he is a strong Biden supporter and found one poll that shows he is up at 47%.

    FYI, Rasmussen poll today is Biden is at 45%.

    #2120208

    Jackk,
    so this seems to be a case of low self-esteem. You expect that others do not respect your opinions and, thus, you can post nonsense. You would do better by treating your words with more self-respect.

    I do see that average Biden approval grew rapidly in the last month from the bottom 37% back to 42% that he had back in Nov 2021. Seems that student loan giveaway bought some votes. There are 2 more months, so need $2T more to give away.

    #2120216

    jackk > I enjoy when you add divrei torah to your posts.

    I am not “adding a dvar Torah” to the post, I am explaining to you plain halachic reasons that explain what gnivas daas/ misleading is.

    #2120389
    jackk
    Participant

    AAQ,

    “so this seems to be a case of low self-esteem. You expect that others do not respect your opinions and, thus, you can post nonsense.”
    Not true at all.

    I believe everyone, besides you, who has read Jack K’s posts understood exactly why I posted the Rasmussen poll. I enjoyed that a poll showed Biden with such great numbers and I posted it. As my post continued from there, it was also a dig at YWN that posted Biden’s low favorability ratings with astonishing headlines “How Low Can He Go ? ” and repeats the low favorability polls numerous times.

    “I am explaining to you plain halachic reasons that explain what gnivas daas/ misleading is. ”
    I already knew what it was and I don’t need you to explain it to me. As I explained , I disagree with you and I don’t think that it applies in the current situation.

    Give me the benefit of the doubt. Being Dan People LKaf Zechus is a mitzvah. Fulfilling the mitzvah in the Torah of judging favorably is especially important during Elul when we beg Hashem to judge us favorably.

    If you have substance to argue with what I write on my posts , and I know that you do , please be my guest.
    If you feel that I mislead you or others , I beg forgiveness. It was never my intention for anyone to think that all the polls show him at 47%.

    #2120399
    jackk
    Participant

    The difference between Trump and Biden is the difference between a person who acts as the President of the United States and the person who acted only out of petty allegiances and grudges.

    Mississippi Republican Governor Tate Reeves just thanked Biden for approving emergency relief for his state in order to assist their water crisis — just DAYS after Reeves attacked Biden for approving student debt relief to struggling Americans.

    Biden didn’t make him beg like a dog, publicly regret his attack or sweat it out until he declared allegiance to him. He did what is in the best interests of the people of Mississippi.

    #2120463

    > Biden didn’t make him beg like a dog,

    And gov of Florida is suing because he is not getting a _reply_ for his two-year old application to allow drug importation from Canada. Process was started under Trump and Biden orally confirmed that he supports the idea. Could you check with your Biden friends who lost the application?

    Also, good news – finally Omicron vaccine was approved. It took as long to approve it as it took Trump to develop a new vaccine from scratch. The final decision is to approve it without waiting for human trail results. Thus, this decision could have been made in Sep 2021 for Delta and in March 2022 for Omicron. So, many lives lost because it is no more important to focus on the problem, as Dems already own the government …

    #2126742
    The Real Truth
    Participant

    dont get fooled by the LOW prices NOW they will shut up like you never saw before in 5783 years ago right after the midterms just wait and see

    and they already are saying it will go up because due to the winter people need more gas just watch dont get fooled by the radical left and the dems stay with the right people like lee zeldin for gov. and trump 2024

    #2127001
    jackk
    Participant

    What are you going to do when
    1) gas prices stay low and go lower
    2) zeldin loses as expected
    3) trump loses again

    #2127042
    Lostspark
    Participant

    @jackk, If all of that happens chas v’shalom besides gas prices, I predict we will have to listen to you float for four more years, and continue to complain everything is still Trumps fault. Nothing of substance will be addressed.

    #2127116
    jackk
    Participant

    Lostspark,

    As I told someone else on YWN, you will have to listen to me for the next 4 years whatever happens.

    #2127132
    emes nisht sheker
    Participant

    @Lostspark – so you are complaining about high gas prices and then say if they go down nothing of substance will be addressed… But is not gas prices going down something of substance? If not, then why are you whining in the first place?

    #2127214
    Lostspark
    Participant

    I’ll vote for Trump in 2024 and they will go down, he knows the art of the deal.

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