GAS PRICES

“yup all of the above make me and anyone else with a brain feel great when we pay our grocery bill that doubled since Brandon took over…”

Clearly, you don’t fall within the peer group referenced in your post since anyone with a brain can easily access the Department of Agriculture and Bureau of Labor Statistics websites and confirm that food prices have NOT increased by 100 percent since January 2021. The actual increase as of June 2022 varies between 14% and 17% depending on which metric you use to measure typical
“basket” of groceries for family of 4.

Jackk, Let’s go Brandon!!

jackk – “I am waiting for the R’s to stop complaining and offer a bill that will lower your grocery bill.”

this last point is not a bad one. And I’m not here to offer any as it aint my area of knowledge. I think what is being expressed here is that there weren’t very good reasons to have brought it up so high in the first place. I don’t expect you to agree, I am just making the point that sometimes there is a crisis that requires everyone to come up with a solution for, and sometimes there is a crisis that many believe could have been avoided in the first place.

Jackk, are you claiming that because you were cheating by less than a perutah, we should still consider you an honest person? Unfortunately your claim is not valid because you are cheating again saying you cheated by less of a penny as you were off by 1.6 pennies

Below $4 as of August 18

Lets go Brandon is indeed an opinion, you may not like it

CS,
“Let’s go Brandon” is not an opinion. It’s an infantile and immature slogan.
Saying “I disagree with Biden’s bill that now allows medicare to negotiate drug prices in order to make them more affordable” is an opinion .

AAQ,
“where do you find in Jewish books permission to mislead other people?” I find them in the same books that the editors of YWN read to allow them to not only print misleading info but to editorialize the info with adjectives like “shocking”.
(Ergo, unless it’s an argument in politics, I would never do it.)
I 100% agree with you about multiple polls and I never consider any them of too much value.
I am not optimistic or pessimistic about November. I will deal with the reality when it arrives.

To paraphrase Rush Limbaugh (a person I despise) after Bill Clinton won the election in 1992 – Doesn’t make a difference we lost. Either way I will have a lot to talk about on my program. ( And in a wink off air to bo snerdley “and we will make tens of millions of dollars “.)

Jackk > unless it’s an argument in politics, I would never do it.

I admire your admission. To paraphrase Berdichever: look how kodesh your children are, Eibishte – they’ll admit anything in order not to lie. Except this is ot working in the case of admitting to lying.

There is a little red book “Lying for truth” by (at that time) young unknown author that I appreciated and used to leave in shuls and lots of people would grab it in order to find some kulos, I guess, but then put it back disappointed… After listing possible kulos from Gemora, the book ends with a caveat from Besht: you can’t use these kulos if you have ever said impermissible lie.

This fun discussion raises a serious issue of current assimilation in general culture. We used to be afraid of avoda zora, then of olympic games, then of churches, then of universities and lack of tzniyut, but we are now assimilating discourse values from media and making this approach to truth acceptable. People who think that they can bend the truth in some issues but not in others are deluding themselves. Soon, you’ll be talking about Torah same way and soon we will not be able to read books about gedolim 100 years ago and not know what is truth or not (see another thread).

Current AAA gas prices
National 3.844
Florida 3.622

jackk> I quoted the Rasmussen poll. I didn’t say anything else. I quoted the Rasmussen poll. I didn’t say anything else. You really should reserve your mussar for people who straight away lie.

Jackk, thanks for asking. I called your post on Rasmussen “misleading”. Genivat daas is defined when you cause someone to form an untruthful picture of the world.

A classical example is opening a new barrel of wine in honor of a guest. If you ran out of wine and open it when the guest came in … Or students coming for a walk and meeting a teacher. He thanks them for the kavod. They do NOT have to correct his impression, as he is “misleading himself” – there was no logical reason for them to know that he is coming.

In this case, you are quoting a poll – why? To create a certain impression. The poll appears to be an outlier. You could have put a caveat that there is a hopeful poll … I realize that by American standards, your post is pretty kosher, but you are talking here with serious people who would not eat with a heksher that was questionable 30 years ago, so you don’t want to get a bad reputation!

Jackk,
so this seems to be a case of low self-esteem. You expect that others do not respect your opinions and, thus, you can post nonsense. You would do better by treating your words with more self-respect.

I do see that average Biden approval grew rapidly in the last month from the bottom 37% back to 42% that he had back in Nov 2021. Seems that student loan giveaway bought some votes. There are 2 more months, so need $2T more to give away.

AAQ,

“so this seems to be a case of low self-esteem. You expect that others do not respect your opinions and, thus, you can post nonsense.”
Not true at all.

I believe everyone, besides you, who has read Jack K’s posts understood exactly why I posted the Rasmussen poll. I enjoyed that a poll showed Biden with such great numbers and I posted it. As my post continued from there, it was also a dig at YWN that posted Biden’s low favorability ratings with astonishing headlines “How Low Can He Go ? ” and repeats the low favorability polls numerous times.

“I am explaining to you plain halachic reasons that explain what gnivas daas/ misleading is. ”
I already knew what it was and I don’t need you to explain it to me. As I explained , I disagree with you and I don’t think that it applies in the current situation.

Give me the benefit of the doubt. Being Dan People LKaf Zechus is a mitzvah. Fulfilling the mitzvah in the Torah of judging favorably is especially important during Elul when we beg Hashem to judge us favorably.

If you have substance to argue with what I write on my posts , and I know that you do , please be my guest.
If you feel that I mislead you or others , I beg forgiveness. It was never my intention for anyone to think that all the polls show him at 47%.

> Biden didn’t make him beg like a dog,

And gov of Florida is suing because he is not getting a _reply_ for his two-year old application to allow drug importation from Canada. Process was started under Trump and Biden orally confirmed that he supports the idea. Could you check with your Biden friends who lost the application?

Also, good news – finally Omicron vaccine was approved. It took as long to approve it as it took Trump to develop a new vaccine from scratch. The final decision is to approve it without waiting for human trail results. Thus, this decision could have been made in Sep 2021 for Delta and in March 2022 for Omicron. So, many lives lost because it is no more important to focus on the problem, as Dems already own the government …

What are you going to do when
1) gas prices stay low and go lower
2) zeldin loses as expected
3) trump loses again

Lostspark,

As I told someone else on YWN, you will have to listen to me for the next 4 years whatever happens.

I’ll vote for Trump in 2024 and they will go down, he knows the art of the deal.

Gas has gone up so high the last few years that sometimes my soda bottles from coke came flat without any gas in them.

I’m thinking about suing Coke for it.

Bought gas today for 2.89 a gallon.

Could not buy gas today because I bought bread today.

Have any commenters addressed the question of what, precisely, the US president and government can actually do to bring gas prices down? There is not much that can be done, and Biden has done them. World markets and events beyond US control are the principal causes of current gas prices. Get used to it.

New Jersey.
Not one of the national brands.
From checking online I see that there are some cheaper stations.