June 4, 2020 10:50 am at 10:50 am #1867876Old Crown HeightsParticipant
So Floyd was positive for coronavirus and in his inebriated state Floyd may have “threatened” the police officers with his infection, which can be why they took him out of the squad car. Then he wouldn’t stay put, and things escalated (contains some not-far-fetched speculation).June 4, 2020 10:59 am at 10:59 am #1867889Doing my bestParticipant
I’m not sure what you mean and after hearing wat to much weird things from you I will not be responding to ur posts anymore.June 4, 2020 2:08 pm at 2:08 pm #1868018
Ubiq -“Watch it again.”
The only mistake I made was when I wrote 1 minute, it was close to 3.
Everything else I wrote is absolutely True!
This is a Civil War. No one cares about black lives, esp. Other Blacks. Everyday Blacks KILL other Blacks, for No Good Reasons.
Half of Americans are Spoiled Brats!June 4, 2020 3:37 pm at 3:37 pm #1868023
“The only mistake I made was when I wrote 1 minute, it was close to 3.”
thats a pretty big mistake .
watch your clock for 3 minutes thats a long time.
“This is a Civil War. ”
dont’ change the subject we are talking about George floyd
you said “All I saw was his eyes were closed. Maybe at the last second it looked like he was limp.”
at that point was he resisting yes or no?June 4, 2020 4:02 pm at 4:02 pm #1868065
Does anyone know if he was in cardiac arrest prior to the ambulance showing up?
Did the officers do CPR on him?June 4, 2020 4:04 pm at 4:04 pm #1868036Yechi HamelechParticipant
Insane. I’ve seen plenty of hate-filled comments launched at my fellow Chassidim (which is why I made this acoount), but I don’t think I’ve ever seen such an open display of racial vitriol on YW’s site. In fact, I don’t think I’ve seen it anywhere.
George Floyd was no worse than your average black growing up in a slumland run by crime and violence. Already in his teens, he was arrested for drug trafficking, and in 2006 he was arrested for participating in an aggravated robbery, while in possession of a weapon (It is not clear whether George withdrew the weapon and threatened anyone).
Since then, George had more or less come clean although he still struggled with a drug addiction. He was an aspiring rapper as well as a professional basketball and football player. Once he moved to Minneapolis, he worked two jobs, one as a truck driver, and another as a security guard at a night club. He was described by those who knew him – former classmates as well as the director of the night club where her worked – as a “gentle giant” with a warm personality; a troubled man who was trying to turn his life around.
We should all be horrified and distressed by this outrageous, maddening, story. To feel otherwise is nothing short of psychopathic.June 4, 2020 4:08 pm at 4:08 pm #1868064
Regardless of what we do, there will always be bad and evil people, people that walk among us and are evil.
Killing someone, regardless of ones racial inclination is evil.
I have not seen any reasonable people defend the actions of the cop that killed George Floyd, regardless of Floyds preexisting medical problems, killing him is evil. Choking someone for such a long period of time will likely kill them, regardless of their underlying medical problems.June 4, 2020 5:05 pm at 5:05 pm #1868126MilhouseParticipant
The report — the real report, not that of Crump’s hired hands — says he died of a cardiopulmonary arrest. In plain ordinary English that’s what we call a heart attack. Doctors may use different technical terms for different kinds of attack, but in ordinary English it’s immaterial; the heart stops, it’s a heart attack.
And it says there was no asphyxiation. So he was not strangled or choked.
Working for Crump automatically means every word the person says is a lie.
<strong>edited. I don’t know you in person but I still find your temper to be a bit frightening at times. Please calm your speech.</strong>June 4, 2020 7:37 pm at 7:37 pm #1868146
“ says he died of a cardiopulmonary arrest”
Based on your posts you seem like an intelligent individual.
But everyone that dies, dies as a result of cardiopulmonary arrest. The question is, why were they in arrest.
Regarding heart attack, thats usually reserved for when the heart is lacking oxygen due to an occlusion. If left untreated, heart attacks can cause cardiopulmonary arrest or permanent heart failure.
Definitions matter!June 4, 2020 7:37 pm at 7:37 pm #1868130Doing my bestParticipant
Old crown heights,
First of all that’s a whole lot of conjecture. Second of all I he also tested positive In early April, so he wouldn’t think he still had it in late may.
The ambulance reported him going into cardiac arrest during the drive to the hospital. The officers did provide him with any medical help at all. The simply called an ambulance for a non emergency for bleeding in the mouth (which interestingly enough was never shown that he was actually bleeding) then upgraded it to an emergency. After that Floyd began saying that he’ll get into the car and that he can’t breathe. (His “conversation” with the officers is posted on page 2 of this topic)June 4, 2020 7:38 pm at 7:38 pm #1868131
Milhouse -” arrest. In plain ordinary English that’s what we call a heart attack.”
Maybe once upon a time, nowadays they just say his Heart Stopped.June 4, 2020 7:41 pm at 7:41 pm #1868136
2scents -“Does anyone know if he was in cardiac arrest prior to the ambulance showing up?
Did the officers do CPR on him?”
I presume Not; unless the EMT or Medic was incompetent.
The first thing the EMS did was check a pulse. Then they proceeded to load him on the Strecther.
Again, unless there was gross incompetence, they treated him like an unconcious pt.
Not like s/o in Cardiac arrest.June 4, 2020 7:41 pm at 7:41 pm #1868141
Ubiq -“at that point was he resisting yes or no?”
I wasn’t there!
I told you before a lot of PD’s in the US, aren’t even trained in Basic First Aid. While others are First Responders, EMT’S, etc.
He was following his protocols.
““Resisting” can be as simple as going limp,”
So maybe he thought he was Still Resisting?!?
I hope you Never Are called as an Expert Witness in a Court of Law, because the opposite Lawyer would Cut you Down SO BAD!June 4, 2020 7:41 pm at 7:41 pm #1868144
“of a cardiopulmonary arrest. In plain ordinary English that’s what we call a heart attack”
Ok so. in short no.
A heart attack is a myocardial infarction. This occurs when (most commonly) a blood vessel to the heart is to narrow for blood to be supplied and part of the heart muscle (myocardium) is deprived of blood (infarcted)
At no point did any autopsy report that I’m aware of say this happeend.
Most people who die, die from “cardiopulmonary arrest. ” ie theri heart and lungs stop (unless they are brain dead) . Now what can casue cardiopulmonary arrest? lots of things. Certainly a myocardial infarction ((heart attack) can lead to cardiopulmonary arrest, so can shock so can high potassium levels (a common cause in those with kidney problems), as can hypoxia (low oxygen levle) for example from asphyxia
Yes his heart stopped (as it does for most dead people) . but why. NOT from a heart attack (myocardia infarction) This was your misinterpretation.
The report said a cardiopulmonary arrest while being restrained by law enforcement officers, who had subjected Floyd to subdual and “neck compression”
Ie they said he died from his heart stopping while being retrained….
why did his heart stop? it doesnt really say it kind of blames multiple factors (which is what I do when I dont know the exact cause,) including intoxicants but ALSO the “subdual and “neck compression””
This was cleared up in he final drafts, but at no point did it ever say he had a heart attack.
“Does anyone know if he was in cardiac arrest prior to the ambulance showing up?”
Did the officers do CPR on him?
From what I understand he still had a pulse when EMS showed upJune 4, 2020 9:30 pm at 9:30 pm #1868180
“I wasn’t there!”
lol! to quote you “It’s obvious that you didn’t watch the video”
“I told you before a lot of PD’s in the US, aren’t even trained in Basic First Aid.”
Yes you said , that seems silly. But if thats the way it is so be it. why are you telling me again?
“““Resisting” can be as simple as going limp,” So maybe he thought he was Still Resisting?!?”
On what planet is “maybe” and “he thought” justificantions for death!
“because the opposite Lawyer would Cut you Down SO BAD!”
I hope you ARE the lawye in a court caser :
Health why did your client shoot those people?
Health: ” Maybe he thought the gun had blanks and the people where ghosts wearing bulletproof armor”
Was he resisting yes or no,’?
don’t say you werent there, go watch the video.
If you dont want to watch the video thats fine too, just say you arent interested in the truth.
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