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is it time for girls to start paying for the dates they go on why is it only on the boy parents to pay for it it can get quite expensive for us
Yes, it is. They should switch off who picks up and drives and pays.
I wasn’t aware that there was a “rule” that the boys pay for dates. FWIW, while I paid for most dates when we were dating, there were some times when Eeees paid.
The Wolf
Pay for the wedding.
This is ridiculous, for all the girls go through with the absolute ridicule in the investigations and such! Now you are going too far. I suggest the young men NOT only ACT like gentlemen but actually learn how to be gentlemen!
I agree with Sac. The girls side should pay for the whole wedding. Why drop the band and flowers and liquor and pictures on the poor guy and his family?
and i completely agree that girls should also pat for dates..
i am single and i pay for the dates (read: NOT MY PARENTS) and it is ridiculously expensive…
Bottom line is guys: MAN UP!
Men are supposed to be the hunters. You are supposed to want to find a wife, provide for her and protect her. This is part of that process. If it is getting too expensive for your parents…. *gasp* you have to pay! Yes, this includes you, kollel guys.
Complaining about paying, asking a girl to pay gives off feminine energy. Trust me, you dont want that. Unless, you dig a girl w masculine energy who will push you around… Hey, if thats your thing, knock yourself out.
Men are supposed to be the hunters. You are supposed to want to find a wife, provide for her and protect her. This is part of that process. If it is getting too expensive for your parents…. *gasp* you have to pay! Yes, this includes you, kollel guys.
Are you kidding? After a while, she *insisted* on paying for some of the dates.
The Wolf
Men are supposed to be the hunters.
Women have been emasculating men since we let them vote. They shouldn’t complain now. You wanted to work, you got it.
And I thought making the girls fly in to the guys hometown was bad…
Here is another suggestion, if it costs too much stop fooling around and commit already! Stop playing the game and choose a wife!!! That should help!
btw for all the guys that are insisting girls should pay….and ur wondering why ur still single???? most girls are looking for generous guys, just keep that in mind next time u need to tip the waiter or parking attendant….
Wolf
I never said anything against her offering.
popa
Feminism is something else. It doesnt give you an excuse not to be a gentleman.
And I thought making the girls fly in to the guys hometown was bad…
You’ve awakened a latent rant. It has nothing to do with being a girl. Girls fly to the guy because the guy is in NY/NJ and the girl isn’t. If the guy is in LA and the girl is in NY, I am sure the guy is the one flying.
Whoever is not in NY flies.
“Whoever is not in NY flies.”
not true popa bear…
I flew for a guy I had been dating, he of course paid the airfare across the atlantic tho….
cshapiro;
I actually don’t know, but it is my theory that I am generally correct. Am I? Would you fly to chicago or miami? And pay?
u seem to have many theories….have any of them ever been tested or proven accurate at least??!?
but to answer ur question, i would def not fly for a first date, and def not pay. As Sac put it….guys are hunters…if u want me come get me, or pay for me, if not, ur loss!!! and this guy in europe spontaneously bought me a ticket after he had been the one coming in every month for business and to date.
My theories are more reliable than tested and proven ones.
Men are supposed to be the hunters. You are supposed to want to find a wife, provide for her and protect her.
Okay. And what are woman supposed to be?
popa bear u r so in love with urself its overwhelming for the rest of us!!!
okay girls ans guys can we get back to the discussion?!
i cant even believe this is a discussion! how much more do you want the girls to do! pay for the wedding, support the couple, and she should work while having kids..and run a house..now she should pay for the dates too!?! comon!
I think that for the first few dates (1 through 4) its typically and usually cheap ones like bowling,going for drinks ect. therefore th guy should pay….meaning dont take a girl out to eat at a resturant, anyhow as i have heard girls dont want to eat on a 1rst date especially infont of guys….the longer u date someone then the money does not matter anymore, so girls you can chip in as well, wont hurt you….i hope all of u find ur bashrets very soon (including myslef) 🙂
Trying
Gatherers.
Girls don’t pay for the wedding. Considering what the boy pays, it usually works out at about half and half.
Sac: Huh? Gatherers?
Men are hunters. Woman are gatherers
i kinda hav 2 agree with sac bec its like 6 girls for 1 guy, thats the current ratio…therefore realy it should be then a lot easier for the guys…for some reason though its not and just makes guys pickier
Sacrilege
Is gatherer a euphemism for “taker?”
Sac: You said the men-hunters “are supposed to want to find a wife, provide for her and protect her.” What are the woman-gatherers supposed to do?
Yes, girls are takers, they take your kids to the doctor, to school, even to work with them. They take your shirts to the cleaners as well as your suits, your shoes to the shoemaker, etc. All while taking your laundry to the washer, your wet clothes to the dryer and your dry clothes to the ironing board or closet.
They take your food orders to the grocer, your groceries to the kitchen, your raw food to the stove and your cooked food to the table. Then they take your dirty dishes off the table, to the sink and your clean dishes after they wash them back to the cupboard. They even take challah as they make the dough!
Yep, girls are takers alright. We take everything we can get!!! That’s why we take your ring and then your credit card so get used to it!
Trying
Woman arent supposed to pursue, its unnatural. A real man goes after what he wants and takes it. A woman waits for that man. Of course you would never know that nowadays…. (So, I dont hold it against you for not knowing 😉
aries: you’re the best! couldn’t have said it better myself!
and you wonder why there are so many single girls? there aren’t any decent guys around for them to marry 🙂
and gbale3: send your tzaddikel out to work and you won’t have to worry about paying for his dates anymore. if he’s old enough to get married, he should be old enough to pay his way.
parents: STOP BABYING YOUR BOYS!!! they somehow get married and expect their wives to do EVERYTHING for them, since they never learned how to manage on their own
Sac: I asked you what women are supposed to do; not what they aren’t supposed to do.
Trying my best
women are supposed to raise your children and care for your home.
aries
“Yes, girls are takers, They take your shirts to the cleaners as well as your suits, your shoes to the shoemaker, etc. All while taking your laundry to the washer, your wet clothes to the dryer and your dry clothes to the ironing board or closet.”
I do most of those things myself and whatever I dont do the maid does. My mother doesnt personally do any of that.
According to you guy who knows how to cook and take care of himself, and there are guys like that, why should they want a wife?
If your reason is to spend their money, thats just a reason not to want a wife…
Trying
Ideally, nothing. Look pretty, take care of themselves, get an education, and have the men come to you! Of course in this day and age you have to be delusional to think that you’ll ever get married by doing that. But that is the way it SHOULD be.
And my book come out in the Spring 😉
Sac: If you are focusing on what the are supposed to do, rather than this day and age, education is not on the list.
girls in general are more expensive than boys, when it comes to shidduchim, the girls parents have TOOOONZ of expenses, what do you want? pile this on too? shidduchim are hard enough…if they agree to go out with a girl from oot (yes there are those like that) than the girls parents pay for her to come in isn’t all that enough?
Trying
Male chauvinist much?
My theories are more reliable than tested and proven ones.
You do realize how absurd that sentence is, don’t you?
no worries haifa girl, popas bears shrink has got this one covered…
WIY Said:
“whatever I dont do the maid does. My mother doesnt personally do any of that.”
That is not usually the case at the beginning of a marriage. A young couple supporting themselves and getting married at a youngish age are not often able to afford a maid.
So while your mom may not do that now, she probably did at the beginning of the marriage before their salaries grew enough to support a more lavish lifestyle.
Sacrilege: For someone who treats the name Darwin like nivul peh, your views seem to owe a lot to anthropogeny.
So lets see (and this is off hand) the girl pays for, the wedding (most at least), Shabbos Sheva Brachos, support the couple, the apartment (in Israel I think), sheitals, a couple thousand buck watch…
The boy pays for FLOP (sometimes a sheital too), and the dates.
And now you seriously want the girls to pay for more? Guys, seriously GROW UP!!! You want to just shirk ALL of your responsibilities?
I mean the girl is the one working, taking care of the house, the kids, must keep herself stick thin even after kids. While the man does what exactly, sits and learns all day (if they even do that) Oh yeah and grow fat from their wives cooking.
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“That is not usually the case at the beginning of a marriage. A young couple supporting themselves and getting married at a youngish age are not often able to afford a maid.”
Most young couples get cleaning help or something for a few hours once a week at the minimum.
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“That is not usually the case at the beginning of a marriage. A young couple supporting themselves and getting married at a youngish age are not often able to afford a maid.”
Most young couples get cleaning help or something for a few hours once a week at the minimum.
My theories are more reliable than tested and proven ones.
You do realize how absurd that sentence is, don’t you?
Every “proof” eventually leads back to theory anyway, since you need to use theory to say that all the factors were accounted for, and all the variables adjusted. So, if I can skip the pointless exercise and just use theory, it is even better.
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