Give Tzedaka to Yeshiva or Chickens for Shabbos?

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    Daniel Rosen
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    My old yeshiva recently called me asking me to give them a donation. If I did this, I would have to directly give less money to the other tzedaka fund I usually give to (Chickens for Shabbos).

    Should I give the yeshiva anyway?

    #939672
    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
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    Why are you asking here?

    #939673
    playtime
    Member

    Supporting Torah is optimal.

    More than giving to poor people?

    Yes.

    Because Torah in one hemisphere brings blessing to another.

    Extreme?

    This is the view of Halacha.

    #939674
    squeak
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    If people wanted chicken for shabbos they could enroll in yeshiva. Obviously their need is not that great. If anything, your donation is perverse, enabling them to live a lifestyle more separated from Torah. So the question is how does a charity like chicken for shabbos even exist in our Torah world?

    #939675
    Daniel Rosen
    Member

    DaasYochid: Because I want opinions as to what to do.

    #939676
    lakewhut
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    squeak think before you type. I hope you aren’t serious

    #939677
    WIY
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    Daniel

    This is truly a Halachic shailah that needs to be addressed to a Rav.

    #939678
    Daniel Rosen
    Member

    I don’t understand: I guess student’s tuition and constant fundraisers still doesn’t cover yeshiva costs? Yes, it is possible. I honestly don’t know what to do and I don’t think it’s as easy as looking it up in the shulchan aruch. I desperately want to do the right thing and it is a very difficult situation to be in.

    #939679

    I’m not sure I even understand the question. Tzedaka is one of the Taryag mitzvos. Giving money to yeshivas is not.

    #939680
    cv
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    “If people wanted chicken for shabbos they could enroll in yeshiva. Obviously their need is not that great. If anything, your donation is perverse, enabling them to live a lifestyle more separated from Torah. So the question is how does a charity like chicken for shabbos even exist in our Torah world?’

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    In what yeshiva did you learn all this?

    #939681
    Daniel Rosen
    Member

    well, any ideas??

    #939682
    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
    Participant

    well, any ideas??

    If this were for discussion, I would point out the two sides:

    1) Supporting Torah has priority in Shulchan Aruch (although some posters seem unaware of this).

    2) OTOH, Chickens is your regular tzeddakah.

    Since this seems to be a real shailah, I will repeat: ASK A POSEK.

    #939683
    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
    Participant

    BTW, I got a kick out of your idea that you don’t need to give the yeshiva any money because they already fundraise.

    It reminds me of Yogi Berra; “Nobody goes there any more because it’s too crowded”.

    #939684
    squeak
    Participant

    ” squeak think before you type.”

    Honestly I didn’t know that was an option on this site.

    #939685
    Sam2
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    Rav Schachter says that the Passuk says to give Tzedaka to your local institutions first. He thinks it’s a direct violation of the Din that people give to far-away Aniyim and Yeshivos before their own Aniyim and Yeshivos.

    Veltz: Giving money to a Yeshivah that actually needs it is Tzedaka.

    #939686

    Sam, why is giving money to a Yeshiva tzedaka? Because the Yeshivas said so?

    #939687
    WIY
    Member

    Daniel

    The basic mitzvah of tzeddaka is to support poor people not institutions. These people don’t have money for food for Shabbos. That comes first and I’m pretty sure your Rav will agree BUT GO ASK!

    #939688
    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
    Participant

    VM, please look up the halachos in Shulchan Aruch and Ahavas Chessed before posting your own opinions, which really don’t count for anything.

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