March 21, 2013 12:52 am at 12:52 am #608706
My old yeshiva recently called me asking me to give them a donation. If I did this, I would have to directly give less money to the other tzedaka fund I usually give to (Chickens for Shabbos).
Should I give the yeshiva anyway?March 21, 2013 1:06 am at 1:06 am #939672
Why are you asking here?March 21, 2013 1:07 am at 1:07 am #939673playtimeMember
Supporting Torah is optimal.
More than giving to poor people?
Because Torah in one hemisphere brings blessing to another.
This is the view of Halacha.March 21, 2013 1:16 am at 1:16 am #939674squeakParticipant
If people wanted chicken for shabbos they could enroll in yeshiva. Obviously their need is not that great. If anything, your donation is perverse, enabling them to live a lifestyle more separated from Torah. So the question is how does a charity like chicken for shabbos even exist in our Torah world?March 21, 2013 2:37 am at 2:37 am #939675
DaasYochid: Because I want opinions as to what to do.March 21, 2013 2:42 am at 2:42 am #939676lakewhutParticipant
squeak think before you type. I hope you aren’t seriousMarch 21, 2013 2:44 am at 2:44 am #939677WIYMember
This is truly a Halachic shailah that needs to be addressed to a Rav.March 21, 2013 2:48 am at 2:48 am #939678
I don’t understand: I guess student’s tuition and constant fundraisers still doesn’t cover yeshiva costs? Yes, it is possible. I honestly don’t know what to do and I don’t think it’s as easy as looking it up in the shulchan aruch. I desperately want to do the right thing and it is a very difficult situation to be in.March 21, 2013 3:03 am at 3:03 am #939679Veltz MeshugenerMember
I’m not sure I even understand the question. Tzedaka is one of the Taryag mitzvos. Giving money to yeshivas is not.March 21, 2013 3:13 am at 3:13 am #939680cvParticipant
“If people wanted chicken for shabbos they could enroll in yeshiva. Obviously their need is not that great. If anything, your donation is perverse, enabling them to live a lifestyle more separated from Torah. So the question is how does a charity like chicken for shabbos even exist in our Torah world?’
In what yeshiva did you learn all this?March 21, 2013 5:16 am at 5:16 am #939681
well, any ideas??March 21, 2013 1:18 pm at 1:18 pm #939682
well, any ideas??
If this were for discussion, I would point out the two sides:
1) Supporting Torah has priority in Shulchan Aruch (although some posters seem unaware of this).
2) OTOH, Chickens is your regular tzeddakah.
Since this seems to be a real shailah, I will repeat: ASK A POSEK.March 21, 2013 1:23 pm at 1:23 pm #939683
BTW, I got a kick out of your idea that you don’t need to give the yeshiva any money because they already fundraise.
It reminds me of Yogi Berra; “Nobody goes there any more because it’s too crowded”.March 21, 2013 1:47 pm at 1:47 pm #939684squeakParticipant
” squeak think before you type.”
Honestly I didn’t know that was an option on this site.March 21, 2013 1:54 pm at 1:54 pm #939685Sam2Participant
Rav Schachter says that the Passuk says to give Tzedaka to your local institutions first. He thinks it’s a direct violation of the Din that people give to far-away Aniyim and Yeshivos before their own Aniyim and Yeshivos.
Veltz: Giving money to a Yeshivah that actually needs it is Tzedaka.March 21, 2013 2:42 pm at 2:42 pm #939686Veltz MeshugenerMember
Sam, why is giving money to a Yeshiva tzedaka? Because the Yeshivas said so?March 21, 2013 2:44 pm at 2:44 pm #939687WIYMember
The basic mitzvah of tzeddaka is to support poor people not institutions. These people don’t have money for food for Shabbos. That comes first and I’m pretty sure your Rav will agree BUT GO ASK!March 22, 2013 7:32 pm at 7:32 pm #939688
VM, please look up the halachos in Shulchan Aruch and Ahavas Chessed before posting your own opinions, which really don’t count for anything.
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