October 9, 2015 9:47 pm at 9:47 pm #616426
What do out-of-towners, who have long treks to shul, do to get to shul (Friday evening or Shabbos morning) when it is heavily raining on Shabbos? Or if a multi-hours long downpour begins once they’re in shul.October 10, 2015 6:18 pm at 6:18 pm #1192095takahmamashParticipant
They get wet.October 10, 2015 11:41 pm at 11:41 pm #1192096Matan1Participant
Raincoats.October 11, 2015 1:48 am at 1:48 am #1192097
What’s it got to do with out of town? Where do you live – On the moon?????? There it never rains.October 11, 2015 2:03 am at 2:03 am #1192098
In some neighborhoods you have shuls on almost every block and don’t need to do much walking.October 11, 2015 2:09 am at 2:09 am #1192099👑RebYidd23Participant
Some of those neighborhoods are “out of town”.October 11, 2015 2:47 am at 2:47 am #1192100yehudayonaParticipant
I got to try out my new rain pants last night.October 11, 2015 1:44 pm at 1:44 pm #1192101GoGoGoParticipant
Just take a deep breath and RRRRUUUUUUNNNNN for it!!October 11, 2015 1:54 pm at 1:54 pm #1192102oomisParticipant
Rain is one thing. Even heavy rain is not a deterrent. LIGHTNING, however, that is directly overhead, is another issue altogether. And what if you are elderly or in some other way very slow-moving and can NOT run for it safely or otherwise? Should you put yourself in a sakana to get to shul which may or may not be so close at hand?October 11, 2015 2:01 pm at 2:01 pm #1192103GoGoGoParticipant
oomis i feel for you and the problem but I think even young people have problems with lightning.October 11, 2015 2:19 pm at 2:19 pm #1192104
The torah has a solution for everybody but its not a ‘one size fits all’ solution. Everybody does as they see fit to deal with their situation.October 11, 2015 3:51 pm at 3:51 pm #1192105
What is the Torah’s solution?October 11, 2015 6:50 pm at 6:50 pm #1192106screwdriverdelightParticipant
I always wondered why walking in the rain on shabbos isn’t a problem of ????. I guess it’s ??? ????? maybe.October 12, 2015 10:33 am at 10:33 am #1192107szb1Member
When I first started exploring Yiddushkeit, I used to walk to and from Chabad on Campus with a bunch of friends on Shabbos in all sorts of crazy weather including dangerously cold below -0 weather. It was about 2 mile/45 minute walk outside of the main community. Some of my friends could have easily chosen to hop a bus but they didn’t.
I don’t like to let weather stop me from doing things including mitzvahs. You just dress accordingly, rain gear if necessary and be careful.
I grew up conservative, walking 20 minutes to and from shul on Shabbos, though my family was not Shomer Shabbos. This is even though the conservative movement said driving to shul was ok. Turns out we also lived outside the eruv. My mother who is not frum but really growing now walks to shul in all weather including rain and snow.October 12, 2015 12:07 pm at 12:07 pm #1192108DaMosheParticipant
Joseph, I have a waterproof raincoat and a waterproof rain hat. I’ll wear them to walk to shul.
After we die, when we are judged, they may ask, “How important was it for you to go to shul?” I don’t want to say, “It was more important that I stay dry!” I’d like to be able to say, “Important enough that I walked in the rain to make sure I got there!”
When it’s windy, the coat doesn’t always do the job. It only comes down to about my knees, so my pants legs can get soaked. When that happens, I’ll usually end up changing when I get home.October 12, 2015 2:20 pm at 2:20 pm #1192109yehudayonaParticipant
DaMoshe, get some rain pants. You wear them over your regular pants and you stay dry.October 12, 2015 5:20 pm at 5:20 pm #1192110apushatayidParticipant
Buy a rain suit. coleman makes a good one you can get at walmart for less than $30. keeps you dry from head to feet.October 12, 2015 8:40 pm at 8:40 pm #1192111
You mean the yellow overalls the construction workers wear who work on the train tracks?October 14, 2015 6:30 pm at 6:30 pm #1192112
I dont understand the question. You either use a raincoat or you don’t go. You understand your own commitment to yiddishkeit. Thats not for any of us to judgeOctober 14, 2015 7:22 pm at 7:22 pm #1192113oomisParticipant
oomis i feel for you and the problem but I think even young people have problems with lightning. “
Of course they do – lightning doesn’t discriminate. But they can still run faster than I can ANY day. I am a turtle target. Fortunately, I have no chiyuv to be in Shul on a Friday night. I could literally be toast… LOLOctober 14, 2015 7:29 pm at 7:29 pm #1192114zahavasdadParticipant
Rain is a very indescript term, A drizzle is rain, but so is a downpour thats its impossible not to get drenchedOctober 14, 2015 7:39 pm at 7:39 pm #1192115
Hadn’t you participated in the 1961 NYC Marathon?October 14, 2015 7:50 pm at 7:50 pm #1192116
Is shul important enough for you that you are willing to get drenched walking over 15 minutes in a downpour to go to shul on Shabbos Kodesh?October 14, 2015 7:57 pm at 7:57 pm #1192117apushatayidParticipant
A neoprene wetsuit will also keep you dry. probably not appropriate attire for tefilla though so make sure you have a change of clothes in shul.October 14, 2015 8:14 pm at 8:14 pm #1192118zahavasdadParticipant
So if there is a Blizzard, Thunderstorm, Tornado or Hurricane outside you are showing you disdain for Yiddishkeit and lack committment if you dont walk to shulOctober 14, 2015 8:32 pm at 8:32 pm #1192119
Joseph: The op question differs greatly from the one you now asked. Do you really expect an answer from anybody? Who owes you a Din V’Cheshbon?October 14, 2015 8:44 pm at 8:44 pm #1192120HashemisreadingParticipant
wear a Shayna coat and put on the windshield wipers full speedOctober 14, 2015 9:02 pm at 9:02 pm #1192121
555: Did I miss the rule of one question per thread with no follow-up? I already got a response to the question that troubles you.October 14, 2015 11:41 pm at 11:41 pm #1192122DaMosheParticipant
There were times I didn’t go to shul because of bad weather. One Shabbos the temperature was very low, it was very windy, and it was snowing heavily. It had snowed earlier in the week, and many of the streets were still icy. I didn’t walk to shul, because it was dangerous. There was once a bad storm on a Shabbos, and there were big branches falling in my neighborhood. I didn’t walk to shul for Mincha or Maariv, for fear of a falling branch.
But I never missed going to shul just because of a fear of getting wet! I’ve walked to shul in downpours, in snowstorms, and temperatures in the single and triple digits.October 15, 2015 1:57 am at 1:57 am #1192123
Obviously one has to go to shul even in the rain.
The real question is am i allowed to wear flats?
What abt the snood?October 15, 2015 2:05 am at 2:05 am #1192124
I have a couple of Rain Suits bought at LL Bean. I keep one in a closet in Shul, where I also have a suit bag with a Shabbos Suit, shirt, Tie, socks, underwear and a pair of dress shoes.
If It’s pouring when I’m planning to leave for shul, I wear sweats under the rain suit and boots, when I get to shul I change. If it’s pouring when it’s time to leave shul, I take off my suit and put on the rain suit I keep there. The key thing is to remember to take the items back to shul during the week.
Twice in the past 10 years weather has been so bad that I have had to stay in shul overnight because of rain or snow. Here in our small town there are no sidewalks and I live about 2 miles from shul.October 15, 2015 2:15 am at 2:15 am #1192125
What abt if its too hot? Do you have a shorts suit in shul?October 15, 2015 11:33 pm at 11:33 pm #1192126
If it’s really hot, I walk in shirtsleeves and slacks. If going to shul, there’s a suit waiting, if coming home, a closet full of clothes awaits me.
Both shul and home have central air conditioning…no window units on timers like in the city.
If I know on Thursday that Shabbos is supposed to be 95 degrees plus, I invite enough Shabbos guests to have a minyan at home and lunch is served by the pool (within an enclosed fence with door from the house so carrying is not a problem). Having a dozen Shabbos sleepover guests may not be easy in a city apartment, but is no problem in a 7 bedroom 5 bath house when all the kids are grown and no longer at home. Just holding on until we fill them with grandchildren on Shabbos and Yuntif…………..October 15, 2015 11:41 pm at 11:41 pm #1192127☕ DaasYochid ☕Participant
Do you have a sefer Torah?October 16, 2015 1:00 am at 1:00 am #1192128charliehallParticipant
I have a good raincoat and rain pants. Not an issue.October 16, 2015 1:05 am at 1:05 am #1192129
What do you country folks do on a Shabbos blizzard?October 16, 2015 2:00 am at 2:00 am #1192130One LinerMember
Stand under the awning and stick their hands out (palms up)October 18, 2015 3:59 pm at 3:59 pm #1192132
yes, we have 2. My grandparents owned a bungalow colony in Loch Sheldrake in the 50s and 60s. When they sold the land for commercial development, zaidy donated the siddurim and chumashim to his shul, but kept the sifrei torah in the family. I’m the youngest male in my generation and have had them since 1988.October 20, 2015 1:19 am at 1:19 am #1192133pcozMember
The slower you walk the dryer you stay.October 20, 2015 1:24 am at 1:24 am #1192134
By walking between the drops?October 20, 2015 2:53 am at 2:53 am #1192135YaakovParticipant
Lefum Tzaarah Agra.January 24, 2016 9:18 pm at 9:18 pm #1192136
So what did all you unfortunate out-of-towners, who have long treks to shul, do this Shabbos morning and afternoon to get to and from shul for Shachris and Mincha/Maariv in the snow blizzard?January 24, 2016 11:59 pm at 11:59 pm #1192137screwdriverdelightParticipant
probably the same thing in-towners did.January 25, 2016 12:32 am at 12:32 am #1192138
C’mon, those hillbillies aren’t so sophisticated! Besides, they have to walk more than half a block to the closest shul. Some are rumored to even walk miles!January 25, 2016 1:12 am at 1:12 am #1192139
We knew (via weather reports) Thursday night that the snow was expected early Shabbos morning and would continue all day.
So the board of the shul cancelled Shabbos services then. The phone squad went to work calling the regulars (after all the snow birds are in Florida) and we had more than a dozen guests including the rabbi for Shabbos in our home.
They carpooled Friday afternoon, so no cars were left outside to be shoveled out after Shabbos. We set up for davening in our sunroom where our sifrei torah are kept in an aron. The women guests plus my wife and youngest daughter davened in the den. It has a glass wall overlooking the sunken sun room and with the transoms open they could hear.
My wife prepared a couple of large cholents which went into clay baking vessels buried in the hearth. There was a huge kettle of soup simmering all night hanging on a tripod near the fire, as well as an old brass samovar of hot water. The main part of our home was built more than 200 years ago and there are 5 working fireplaces (which we use all winter), two of which are set for cooking. No need to chance a power outage in a blizzard.
It was still snowing at the end of Shabbos so we had a mini-melava malka. Some of the teens came by on snowmobiles or in 4 wheel drives. The storm tapered off about 8PM. We had about 15 inches. It took about 1/2 an hour to shovel the walks to out driveway and garage. By then out plow service had cleared the driveway and my 2nd son-in-law and I drove everyone home.
This type of a home Shabbos occurs once or twice each winter when a storm is expected, and once each February as a planned retreat for 5 local families including wives and children.January 25, 2016 2:46 am at 2:46 am #1192140The QueenParticipant
One of my childhood memories is Shabbos morning after a blizzard hit, the snow was waist high for grown men. We stood by the window and watched all the men plowing there way out of their homes with their bodies, and neighbors helping to pull each other out to the road which was already plowed, the road being after an ample front yard. None of the men stayed home.November 15, 2016 4:56 am at 4:56 am #1192141LightbriteParticipant
What about pikuach nefesh? You can get pneumonia from being out in the rain. That’s a life-threatening illness. Seriously no joke.
Or catching a cold is pretty easy from someone getting to shul in wet clothes and then being in the A/C for an hour. Also fungal infections from prolonged dampness.November 15, 2016 12:40 pm at 12:40 pm #1192142
Hashem protects when on the way to, and when engaged in, a mitzvah (such as tefila).November 15, 2016 1:05 pm at 1:05 pm #1192143Lilmod UlelamaidParticipant
Lightbrite – being out in the rain is not life-threatening for the vast majority of the population! (with the possible exception of people who are very elderly or ill). If it were, I would be dead 1,000 times. I don’t have a car, so I have to walk everywhere or wait at busstops for 15 minutes. It doesn’t bother me.
Even during the week, I almost never use an umbrella since I always lose or break them so I usually don’t bother.
Although once when I was walking in the rain in Lakewood, some avreich driving by had rachmanus on me and threw me an umbrella from his car window. It was really nice of him, but a bit embarrassing!November 15, 2016 4:29 pm at 4:29 pm #1192144hujuParticipant
With great reluctance, I conclude that this thread is remarkably … well, never mind, I want to be nice, or at least not judgmental and mean. The second and third posts cover the topic completely. Why do so many people have so much to say about a very simple problem?
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