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February 21, 2014 8:39 pm at 8:39 pm #612190sam613Participant
Can someone suggest a good CD that could be played at a Bar or Bas Mitzva instead of a band? I don’t want something too rocky – just Yeshivish and something where they play each of the songs the same amount of time a regular band would. Many of the mix CDs I’ve heard play each song only one time through, low part and high part.
Thanks,
Shmuel
February 23, 2014 1:19 am at 1:19 am #1005174Mr SfardiParticipantjust hire a dj
February 24, 2014 3:03 pm at 3:03 pm #1005175sam613ParticipantThanks Mr Sfardi. In an effort to keep down the cost of our Simchos we’d like to have a CD instead. I was actually at a Chassishe Chasuna where they just had a CD playing and it was perfect. This seemed to be a common practice in their community. I think they said they were able to make the entire Chasuna for $6000.
So is there such a CD that I can buy? If not, I think this would be a great new market for Band leaders. They could record CDs for people who don’t want to pay for a whole band.
Thanks.
February 24, 2014 3:25 pm at 3:25 pm #1005176crisisoftheweekMember“I don’t want something too rocky – just Yeshivish”
Uhhh..you do realize that by Yeshivish you mean more “klezmerish” which was the rock music of the goyim back in de alter heim.
So by trying not to be goyish..you are still being goyish. And if goyish music is an issur of some sort, it might as well sound like it came from this century rather than the soundtrack to a pogrom.
February 24, 2014 4:17 pm at 4:17 pm #1005177☕ DaasYochid ☕Participant“klezmerish” which was the rock music of the goyim back in de alter heim.
I’m not that old to have first hand knowledge, but a klezmer musician tells me that the klezmer instrumental style from Eastern Europe was uniquely Jewish.
February 24, 2014 4:26 pm at 4:26 pm #1005178mybrotherMemberthey probably created a playlist on their computer and burnt it to a cd.
or simpler just use a Mp3 player like n ipod, and have a relative who knows jewish music to “Dj”
Good luck
February 24, 2014 4:35 pm at 4:35 pm #1005179crisisoftheweekMember“The Romanian influence is, perhaps, the strongest and most enduring of the musical styles that influenced traditional klezmer musicians. Klezmer musicians heard and adapted traditional Romanian music, which is reflected in the dance forms found throughout surviving klezmer music repertoire (e.g., Horas, Doinas, Sirbas, and Bulgars etc.)”
Klezmorim were respected for their musical abilities and diverse repertoire, but they were by no means restricted to playing klezmer. Christian churches sometimes asked for their services, and some Italian classical violin virtuosos received their instruction.[citation needed] Local aristocracy held the best klezmer in high regard and often used their services.
So at best, Klezmer musicians were the “borscht belt” comedians and entertainers of their time. Not exactly the “helige” music and history we all tricked ourself into thinking.
February 24, 2014 4:41 pm at 4:41 pm #1005180Avram in MDParticipantcrisisoftheweek,
Uhhh..you do realize that by Yeshivish you mean more “klezmerish” which was the rock music of the goyim back in de alter heim.
Uhhh..you do realize that just because the OP does not prefer rock music does not mean he deserves your ridicule of perceived hypocrisy in aversions to music styles in the frum community. Maybe he just doesn’t want his simcha overshadowed by horrendous sounds masquerading as music that utilizes only three chords in an entire song but doesn’t need to use more because the listeners are half deaf by the end anyway.
And if goyish music is an issur of some sort, it might as well sound like it came from this century rather than the soundtrack to a pogrom.
Are you in favor of dumping Beethoven and Dvorak too? Their music is so… 1800s.
February 24, 2014 4:58 pm at 4:58 pm #1005181crisisoftheweekMember@Avram in MD
Compare “simcha klezmer” to “simcha rock” and the distinction is miniscule at best. I’m guessing the ba’alei simcha is more concerned with being perceived as “too modern” more than the actual musical quality occuring.
Ahh the old “rock music is 3 chords” canard. I would argue that a large amounts of “rock musicians” from the 70’s and 80’s could teach college level courses in advance music theory.
Pick up a song book of a edited or edited
album and see if you can keep up with the time signature changes or the massive amounts of chord changes used in a single song.
February 24, 2014 5:38 pm at 5:38 pm #1005182☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantCrisis, you left out some more quotes:
“Compared to most other European folk music styles, little is known about the history of klezmer music, and much of what is said about it must be seen as conjecture.[2]”
“Klezmer is easily identifiable by its characteristic expressive melodies, reminiscent of the human voice, complete with laughing and weeping. This is not a coincidence; the style is meant to imitate khazone and paraliturgical singing. A number of dreydlekh (a Yiddish word for musical ornaments), such as krekhts (“sobs”) are used to produce this style.”
So sure, the klezmorim fused other types of music into the traditional style, but at its heart, it’s Jewish.
Compare that to today’s popular “Jewish” music, which is 90% derivative.
You’re also unfairly comparing older European non Jewish styles to rock, although they’re very different.
February 24, 2014 5:46 pm at 5:46 pm #1005183takahmamashParticipantIf not, I think this would be a great new market for Band leaders. They could record CDs for people who don’t want to pay for a whole band.
Why would they make a CD that would cause them to get less bookings and lose money?
February 24, 2014 6:34 pm at 6:34 pm #1005184Avram in MDParticipantcrisisoftheweek,
I’m guessing the ba’alei simcha is more concerned with being perceived as “too modern” more than the actual musical quality occuring.
Again, this is an unfounded assumption. Just because you like rock music does not mean that everyone else in the world has to, and that there must be some conspiratorial reason behind it if they don’t.
see if you can keep up with the time signature changes or the massive amounts of chord changes used in a single song.
Ok – so perhaps you’ve proved that rock music can be complex, but complexity doesn’t necessarily correlate with goodness 🙂
February 24, 2014 8:10 pm at 8:10 pm #1005185jewishfeminist02Member“Goodness”? You mean quality?
Anyhow, can’t we all agree that music is a matter of personal taste/preference and to each his own?
February 25, 2014 1:27 pm at 1:27 pm #1005186Avram in MDParticipantjewishfeminist02,
“Goodness”? You mean quality?
Sure 🙂
Anyhow, can’t we all agree that music is a matter of personal taste/preference and to each his own?
Once below 115 dB and with kosher words, I’ll agree with you.
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