January 28, 2011 8:40 am at 8:40 am #594589
Do you say good morning/ greet/ say good night to the people you pass in the street?
Does your response change if the subject is a male or female?
-saying good shabbos to the opposite gender, do you do it?
Lets start a campaign to greet everyone we see on the street and do it with a smile. No?!
(its a mishne in Pirkai Avos)
(and don’t worry if the other person doesn’t respond, it seems to happen often)
It makes everyone so much more happier, it will help make the world a better place and make a Kiddush Hashem!January 28, 2011 8:52 am at 8:52 am #733091HaLeiViParticipant
Good morning:)January 28, 2011 8:54 am at 8:54 am #733092
I already do!
Now we have two
Now don’t say no
To every single jew!January 28, 2011 12:21 pm at 12:21 pm #733093eclipseMember
To Women,a cheerful sing-song “Good morning!”
To Men,if I see them daily AND THERE IS A CONNECTION(like grocery store owner,bus driver,etc.),a smile and subdued “good morning.”
If I don’t see them daily,or there is no shaychus-NOTHING.January 28, 2011 1:08 pm at 1:08 pm #733094doodle jumpParticipant
Good morning and have a great Shabbos:)January 28, 2011 3:27 pm at 3:27 pm #733095
On Shabbos I try to greet everyone (man or woman, adult or child)* I pass in the street with either a “Good Shabbos” or a “Good morning” if they aren’t Jewish.
During the week it’s a bit more difficult. Nonetheless I try to greet people in the morning with a “good morning,” but, to be honest, I’m not as consistent about it.
* And, yes, as strange and as stupid as it sounds, I’ll even sometimes say “Good Shabbos cat” to a cat I pass in the street on Shabbos.January 28, 2011 3:32 pm at 3:32 pm #733096yitayningwutParticipant
The wolf saying good Shabbos to the cat. Mammash sounds like the pesukim in Yeshaya describing the days of mashiach…January 28, 2011 3:38 pm at 3:38 pm #733097
Mammash sounds like the pesukim in Yeshaya describing the days of mashiach…
No, that would be if I said “Good Shabbos sheep.”
The WolfJanuary 28, 2011 3:49 pm at 3:49 pm #733098
Does greeting an animal cheapen the meaning of greeting a Tzelem Elokim when done in the same manner?January 28, 2011 3:51 pm at 3:51 pm #733099ItcheSrulikMember
I say Good Shabbos/Shabbat Shalom to every Jew I see on shabbos. To be honest, I’m far less consistent about “good mornings” both on shabbos and and during the week. Guess it’s the next thing to work on.January 28, 2011 5:03 pm at 5:03 pm #733100ProfessionalMember
eclipse – I apprecaite your approach, its correct for litvish derech. I respect chassidim who are more restricted when it comes to other genders.
Makdim Beshalom – important.
Tznius bet. genders – not any less importantJanuary 28, 2011 5:13 pm at 5:13 pm #733101doodle jumpParticipant
W M : Very funny:) LOLJanuary 28, 2011 5:46 pm at 5:46 pm #733102
Does greeting an animal cheapen the meaning of greeting a Tzelem Elokim when done in the same manner?
Why do you assume that a greeting is strictly because of Tzelem Elokim? I’m not greeting the animal with the Shem HaShem (such as if I were to say “Shalom Alichem…”)
I greet people because I think it brightens their day. Does it brighten the day of the cat or my hamster in the morning when I greet them? I don’t know… but I don’t think it hurts.
The WolfJanuary 28, 2011 6:09 pm at 6:09 pm #733103chayav inish livisumayParticipant
simchashachaim- you must be from the new york area. for some reason people there dont greet others. in miami everyone greets everyone(if same gender). we wouldnt need a campaign to start saying good shabbosJanuary 28, 2011 6:10 pm at 6:10 pm #733104
I do not see where I assume that a greeting is strictly for a Tzelem Elokim. Reread what was written, it says nowhere near such a thing.
I was wondering about greeting an animal and a Tzelem Elokim in the same manner.
I doubt you would greet the President in the same manner that you greet a person in shul. You would not say hi in an offhanded manner to him. Intrinsic in a greeting is it being respectful and appropriate to who is being greeted.
Greeting your neighbor as you would a dog, appears not to be respectful. (except that you are a Wolf)
Is there not more to a greeting than just saying a few nice words by rote, with no real meaning behind what is being said?January 28, 2011 6:15 pm at 6:15 pm #733105
Now that we’re being specific
If from across the pacific
I don’t know her
Then all I’ll show her
Is how I’m genterific
All that I will do
Is nod my head to you
But if on the street
You did greet
I’ll say how do you do
Now should I go post this in the limerick thread? 😀January 28, 2011 6:16 pm at 6:16 pm #733106
I doubt you would greet the President in the same manner that you greet a person in shul. You would not say hi in an offhanded manner to him.
That’s only because I don’t have that degree of familiarity with the President. I wouldn’t give an offhand “hi” to a total stranger either.
I would, however, greet the President with the same “Good Morning, sir” that I would give to any other person whom I don’t know (and yes, I often do use “Sir” when greeting and thanking people.)
The WolfJanuary 28, 2011 6:29 pm at 6:29 pm #733108
And if you were familiar with the president, would you not say sir? Of course not. Even his closest aides are sure to add the honorific.
And you say Sir when saying hi to a stranger in pasing?
But, following your thought process, and your comments, you would say it is appropriate to address a person the same way you would address a dog.January 28, 2011 6:31 pm at 6:31 pm #733109
And you say Sir when saying hi to a stranger in pasing?
Sometimes I do… when it strikes my fancy.
But, following your thought process, and your comments, you would say it is appropriate to address a person the same way you would address a dog.
As long as they are basically respectful to me, I don’t care what they call their dog. In other words, if they say “Good morning” to me with a smile, I don’t care if they use the same for a dog. It doesn’t hurt me one way or the other.
The WolfJanuary 28, 2011 6:36 pm at 6:36 pm #733110popa_bar_abbaParticipant
Actually, it is an American thing to call regular people by honorifics which were reserved for the English nobility. That is why we call men “gentlemen”, and women “ladies”.
I like it.January 28, 2011 6:43 pm at 6:43 pm #733111Mayan_DvashParticipant
where I work almost everyone greets eachother. In fact there are a few who will say Good Morning Yosef. At first I found that strange, but I got used to it. Now I am trying to return it to them at least. I figure there are probably people who might feel the same strangeness if I would use their first name.
Good Shabbos Coffee RoomJanuary 28, 2011 6:44 pm at 6:44 pm #733112
“As long as they are basically respectful to me, I don’t care what they call their dog.”
I am not talking about how YOU are addressed. The person may have no idea who else you have adressed in the same manner.
My comments refer to what the greeting means to the person offereing the greeting.
It would seem to me that a if asomeone greets a person the same way he greets an animal, the greeting itself, by the person making it has not much value.
The way I look at it, offering a greeting to person is being respectful of them, it is a way of working on myself, to further proper respect of others. If all I am doing is offering a greeting that is appropriate for a dog, I am not raising my respect of others by offering such a meaningless greeting.January 28, 2011 6:48 pm at 6:48 pm #733113
I think you’re misunderstanding the nature of my greeting (and, indeed, perhaps, my greeting is not the norm).
When I say “Good morning” to someone, I am not just uttering words. I am actually expressing a hope and wish that they morning that they have is a good one. Perhaps most people don’t view it that way, but I do.
In this light, it’s just as appropriate to wish a good morning to an animal as it is to anyone else. I would like the cat to have a good morning (whatever that means for a cat) just as much as I would want a person to have a good morning.
If you view a greeting as a giving of respect, then perhaps you are right… but that’s not my intention when I say “good morning” or “good Shabbos”… as I try to greet everyone — man and woman, adult and child, Jew and non-Jew.
The WolfJanuary 28, 2011 6:50 pm at 6:50 pm #733114always hereParticipant
I will even use ‘Sir’ when speaking with a grocery deliveryman. as I said in another post: you get what you give (in most cases.)January 28, 2011 7:33 pm at 7:33 pm #733115smartcookieMember
Hello, Sir Poppa 🙂
Anyway, I think we should make a separate coffee room for new members because the threads keep repeating and it so boooring.January 28, 2011 7:36 pm at 7:36 pm #733116popa_bar_abbaParticipant
Actually, I really am the rightful Duke of Westminster, and am really 78th in line to the throne.January 28, 2011 7:45 pm at 7:45 pm #733117
Smartcookie: but the limerick/riddle/brain teaser type threads have to be joint. Besides of course they are repeating, they have been so buried people forgot they existed so everything is started anew instead of being continuedJanuary 28, 2011 8:00 pm at 8:00 pm #733118
@chayav inish livisumay
I am NOT from New York!
Have a great Shabbos EVERYONE!January 28, 2011 8:05 pm at 8:05 pm #733119
@ The Wolf
Are you Dr. Doolittle?
Just playing around!
Your Mehalech is an interesting one.January 28, 2011 8:16 pm at 8:16 pm #733120smartcookieMember
Yossi- I love new threads! But not about issues that were discussed at length 3 times already!
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