August 6, 2019 7:27 am at 7:27 am #1770317
Does anyone know any details about Gourmet Glatt’s rumored move into the current Shoppers on Smith Ave. or is it just a misinformed rumor?August 6, 2019 11:56 am at 11:56 am #1770548
That rumor has been around for a while (perhaps more hope than reality) as spread by those disaffected from the Seven Mile monopoly and having returned from a weekend visiting family in NYC, 5T or Lakewood hoping to someday have GG as an affordable alternativeAugust 6, 2019 11:57 am at 11:57 am #1770582Sam KleinParticipant
Their not moving to Baltimore they are opening an additional Store in Baltimore their first one for BaltimoreAugust 6, 2019 11:57 am at 11:57 am #1770585
The headline to this thread is what is misleading. They are not moving to Baltimore, it would be opening a branchAugust 6, 2019 11:57 am at 11:57 am #1770587AlizgittParticipant
IMHO is it a stale rumor at this point. I will believe it when I see it.August 6, 2019 6:02 pm at 6:02 pm #1770800
I think it was more than a rumor.If anyone knows anyone at Gourmet Glatt that would know this,can you please ask. And if the answer is no, tell them that there is a great opportunity to make this their second-busiest store (after Lakewood),due to the very young community that has sprung up around the smith area.August 7, 2019 4:17 pm at 4:17 pm #1771265yitzykParticipant
There is a lot more to opening a store there than just having an available location and potential customers.
Like everything else in the world, there are politics. And of course logistics. The existing NY kosher distributors will not travel 200 miles out of their way just to deliver to one store. 7 Mile Market has their own truck(s) that bring them their stock. You can be sure they are not offering to share it with another store. And local distributors in Maryland already have contracts with 7 Mile Market that would be put in jeopardy if they agree to service their competitors.August 7, 2019 5:33 pm at 5:33 pm #1771323☕️coffee addictParticipant
Seasons did it
And gourmet glatt has a place in Lakewood so it’s not that much fartherAugust 7, 2019 7:56 pm at 7:56 pm #1771382
Seasons was in a horrible location and charged 3 times the price. Gourmet Glatt would have much to gain in terms of profit by moving to Baltimore, making it well worth their while to become the second viable grocery option in Baltimore. Shoppers location is so prime, and the amount of existing goyish customers it would keep from the current Shoppers might put it ahead of Seven Mile which presumably does at least as much business as Gourmet Glatt Cedarhurst. So yes it’s worth it, the question is it trueAugust 7, 2019 9:54 pm at 9:54 pm #1771405lamdin1Participant
I have been doing business with Gourmet Glatt for many years I confirm today that the Baltimore rumor is unfounded what is true is that they’re opening a second store within two months in LakewoodAugust 7, 2019 9:54 pm at 9:54 pm #1771412☕️coffee addictParticipant
I was replying to yitzyk, who said
“The existing NY kosher distributors will not travel 200 miles out of their way just to deliver to one store”August 8, 2019 7:13 am at 7:13 am #1771448
I am aware of the seagull square opening,but do you have a valid source confirming its not moving to BaltimoreAugust 9, 2019 12:38 am at 12:38 am #1771919
To all the CR Trumpkopf fans: Why would any reputable, high-quality food market such as GG want to move to a “disgusting, rat-infested mess of a city” [with a losing football team]??August 9, 2019 9:21 am at 9:21 am #1771973
They go where the largest frum communities are. Starts with Brooklyn, then Monsey, Lakewood, Five Towns, etc. Baltimore doesn’t rank. There are other larger frum communities that come before them.August 9, 2019 9:23 am at 9:23 am #1771979
Katanhatorah, GG affordable? You’ve got to be kidding! My wife will only buy there what is not available in regular supermarkets or Costco. Did you get this info from MSNBC or CNN?August 9, 2019 10:28 am at 10:28 am #1771996Dr. EParticipant
Will not likely happen. I am assuming that the shopping center will require that any store which takes occupancy there be open 7 days a week. Secondly, the chain that is there now (Shoppers) seems to be looking to sell of all of their locations at once, not just a one-off with that store. Third, given that the former Seasons is around, the local kosher market might now be too flooded. If anything, it would make the most sense to have a Shoprite in there, which has more kosher certified products as well as models of a “Kosher Experience” setup that they have done successfully in NJ. They’d be able to be open 7 days a week and have the more general products and sections to service the non-kosher shoppers that live in the area.August 9, 2019 10:28 am at 10:28 am #1771990YankelleParticipant
@Gadolhadora: I normally find your comments to be witty and thoughtful, but this one is off base. Why inject politics into a thread about a supermarket? And the obvious answer to your rhetorical question is that many many Jews live there, so GG doesn’t care that some areas of Baltimore are disgusting and rat-infested.August 9, 2019 12:43 pm at 12:43 pm #1772028Uncle BenParticipant
I see references to the “former” Seasons. What is it now?August 9, 2019 12:47 pm at 12:47 pm #1772011
AJew: Actually, from the perspective of quality and selection, GG is quite reasonable plus the service in the two stores I have visited is excellent (compared to some other markets which don’t need to be named). Sure, if you have the time, you can shop Costco, regular supermarkets and local heimeshe markets and get a lower price for your combined shopping list. Most of us don’t have the time or interest so we will pay a small premium for the quality and convenience.
Yankelle: You are right (in re the politics) but I couldn’t get over the irrationality of so many here being big supporters of the Trumpkopf and say nothing about his slandering the residents of a major city but yet debating the merits of a high quality Yiddeshe firm relocating there. Couldn’t help myself.August 9, 2019 12:47 pm at 12:47 pm #1772027Uncle BenParticipant
Yankelle: That’s funny, I find most of GH’s comments off base. This one though is obviously satire and entertaining. Of course GG could just get a few cats to keep the rats at bay.
Seriously though I haven’t been to Baltimore lately. Is the Smith area where Frum people are moving towards the city or the county side?
repairedAugust 9, 2019 12:59 pm at 12:59 pm #1772018laughingParticipant
Yitzyk, the distributors make it to Florida. Baltimore is on the wayAugust 9, 2019 2:03 pm at 2:03 pm #1772062YankelleParticipant
Uncle Ben: I got that it was satire, just seemed to be unnecessarily turning the thread into a political discussion.August 9, 2019 4:27 pm at 4:27 pm #1772135
Ktorah, Sanders likened Baltimore to a third world country, it’s Mayor said she could smell the rats and Cummings himself called it drug infested. Trumps comments did not mention race or ethnicity.August 12, 2019 6:11 pm at 6:11 pm #1773017yehudayonaParticipant
Supermarkets are in business to make money, so they charge what they can. More competition usually means lower prices. There’s more competition in Brooklyn than in Queens or the Five Towns, and more in those than in Baltimore or Detroit. In addition, shipping costs raise the prices of kosher food that’s out of the NY area (though both Detroit and Baltimore have local CY milk, while LA imports its CY from NY!).
GG’s prices in the 5 Towns are high, but they seem to do a good business, possibly because area residents are less price-sensitive. GG opened Kolsave, with lower prices and a smaller selection in the old Brach’s location.. GG’s prices in Boro Park are higher than KRM’s and it shows in the relative amount of business they do — whenever I’ve been in GG-BP it’s been pretty empty, while KRM is usually crowded.August 12, 2019 8:58 pm at 8:58 pm #1773130
How well is GG doing in Lakewood?August 13, 2019 3:59 pm at 3:59 pm #1774424
Joseph-Gourmet Glatt in Lakewood is very possibly the country’s busiest Kosher store(or Evergreen in Monsey).
Uncle Ben-From Reisterstown down Smith for close to 3 miles past Bais Yaakov is now Jewishincluding most side streets. Greenspring until I-95 is Jewish including most of the side streets besides for some of Quarry Beazer.The Willowglen, Pickwick, Ranchleigh, Cross Country, and Cheswolde are Jewish. Increasingly toward Beth Tfiloh and Old Court Crossing by Beazer are Jewish. So probably over half of the Jewish population resides closer to the Shoppers location. Also the more toward and into the county you go the average income goes up. A great deal of these people have moved here in the past 5 years and don’t have the loyalty to Seven Mile the previous generation had, and they would go to an all kosher supermarket closer to them.
Dr. E-Shoppers is dealing with each store separately and not selling them all at once. Around a quarter of the people in the store even now are Jewish and unless they are shopping for pepperoni or pork there isn’t much of a reason that they wouldn’t keep on shopping at the same location, unless a GG would jack up the prices a lot compared to what shoppers prices are now(not too great). And in generalthe more stores a chain has the better of they do as long as they don’t make crazy decisionsAugust 13, 2019 4:16 pm at 4:16 pm #1774430
Moishe: KRM is the country’s busiest kosher supermarket.August 14, 2019 1:35 am at 1:35 am #1774578yehudayonaParticipant
Joseph, I gather you’ve never been to GG Lakewood. How do you know that KRM is busier?August 14, 2019 8:00 am at 8:00 am #1774612
I have been there. Why haven’t you questioned the assertion that GG-L is the busiest?August 14, 2019 8:59 am at 8:59 am #1774644MilhouseParticipant
The whole stupid argument doesn’t begin. The Jewish areas of Baltimore are NOT in Cummings’s district.August 14, 2019 8:59 am at 8:59 am #1774639
Being crowded doesn’t necessarily mean busiest, nor does gross sales. My local Costco doesn’t appear to be busy until you notice that their cashiering process is very efficient and lines are almost never long . KMR’s prices are low, GG is high, so higher gross sales at GG wouldn’t mean they’re busier. You’d need to know things like volume sold, and number of transactions.August 14, 2019 12:11 pm at 12:11 pm #1774683cherrybimParticipant
Seven Mile Market and the owners give enormous amounts of support to Baltimore Jewish institutions and individuals in need and has done so for decades.
And they don’t have to asked for assistance, they are loyal partners of the community and know the community well.
It is unlikely that any interloper kosher supermarket will come anywhere near to Seven Mile Market’s commitment.
For this alone, Seven Mile Market should be supported exclusively by the Baltimore Jewish population.
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