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Great people with a smile before you pray better it is then tzedaka. Right after pray for Mashiach and for everyone to do teshuva.
“…smile before you pray better it is then tzedaka…”
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In what book is that written?
Who wrote that book?
Chapter number? Page number?You mean greet people.
It’s a Chazal: It can be found in a Rashi on Parshas Vayechi I don’t remember the reference but it has something to do with “Whitening the teeth” which means smiling at somebody. I hope somebody can find the exact reference.
Square Root,
I’m also wondering if OP has a source for that incendiary statement, but I found some sources that are SIMILAR (but don’t actually say that greeting is BETTER than tzedaka):
Kitzur Shulchan Aruch:
אסור להחזיר את העני ששאל ריקם… ואם אין בידך כלום מה ליתן לו, פיסהו בדברים.Brochos 6b:
כל שיודע בחברו שהוא רגיל ליתן לו שלום יקדים לו שלום… ואם נתן לו ולא החזיר נקרא גזלן שנאמר ואתם בערתם הכרם גזלת העני בבתיכם.Best source I found – Bava Basra 9b:
כל הנותן פרוטה לעני מתברך בשש ברכות, והמפייסו בדברים מתברך באחת עשרה ברכות.
And according to Tosfos there, the מפייסו did not give any money.But obviously, we can all greet people with a smile AND give tzedaka.
The smile comes after prayer when you drink lchaim at tikkun
It says by the Magen Avraham in the name of the kavonos that we should accept loving your fellow men/women before davening
Dear Menachem Shmei,
I thank you very much for your excellent Torah sources.
As you correctly said, those statements are similar
to what the OP said, but none are exact matches.Most people don’t know this, but I have done HUGE research
into the topic of Tefilah, always focusing on precise Torah sources.I NEVER found ANY Rabbi or Torah book which says exactly
what the OP said, even though I did enough research to write
several books on the topic of Tefilah, and I strongly suspect
that his quote is not written in any Torah book.I am tired of reading the ridiculous messages that “bael teshuva”
writes in this Coffee Room. His messages are low-quality,
and never should have been approved by moderators.I strongly suspect that “bael teshuva” is NOT a real Baal Teshuvah;
I suspect that he falsely uses that name as part of a sick stupid joke,
in which he hopes to make people laugh at real Baalei Teshuvah,
because Baalei Teshuvah are like orphans, who have nobody
to defend them when people laugh at them or ridicule them.I wish you good decrees on Rosh HaShanah,
and a very easy fast on Yom Kippur.Sincerely,
SQUARE_ROOTDear Menachem Shmei,
I thank you very much for your excellent Torah sources.
As you correctly said, those statements are similar
to what the OP said, but none are exact matches.Most people don’t know this, but I have done HUGE research
into the topic of Tefilah, always focusing on precise Torah sources.I NEVER found ANY Rabbi or Torah book which says exactly
what the OP said, even though I did enough research to write
several books on the topic of Tefilah, and I strongly suspect
that his quote is not written in any Torah book.I am tired of reading the ridiculous messages that “bael teshuva”
writes in this Coffee Room. His messages are low-quality,
and never should have been approved by moderators.I strongly suspect that “bael teshuva” is NOT a real Baal Teshuvah;
I suspect that he falsely uses that name as part of a sick stupid joke,
in which he hopes to make people laugh at real Baalei Teshuvah,
because Baalei Teshuvah are like orphans, who have nobody
to defend them when people laugh at them or ridicule them.I wish you good only decrees on Rosh HaShanah,
and a very easy fast on Yom Kippur.Sincerely,
SQUARE_ROOTMenachem,
As yussel said it’s from ויחי מט:יב (not a rashi actually) it’s a גמרא in כתובות (קיא:) that says דאמר רבי יוחנן טוב המלבין שינים לחבירו יותר ממשקהו חלב
To Square Root,
1) This is a coffee room. We are not writing a book where we would need footnotes with “precise Torah sources”. If Bael Tshuva did not get an exact match, we should give him the benefit of the doubt and not judge him harshly. He is trying to create Achdus. Maybe he is reading an English translation.2) Not all Ba’alei Tshuva are “orphans”.. Yes, a lot of us had to separate from our biological families in order to keep the Mitzvos. But for some of us, the opposite happened. A general rule is that if the relationship was good before tshuva, it will be improved and strengthened by the mitzvos. Where the relationship was bad before tshuva, keeping mitzvos can effectively make the Ba’al Tshuva into an orphan.. If Bael Tshuva is in the latter category, we need to be especially careful not to hurt him.
3) Do you really want to start defining terms like “ridiculous” and “low quality”? What possible Toelles was there in that remark? Do you want to get him thrown out of the CR? Think for a moment about when you thought you were part of a group of people, and then it turns out that they don’t want you around.
4) I don’t suppose I need to give you any references about being Dan L’Kaf Zechus. Sounds like you are quite intelligent and scholarly and hold yourself to high standards. To publicly accuse Bael Tshuva of making fun of Ba’alei Tshuva would be impossible if you keep in mind that speaking or writing Lashon Hara is a Lav. From the Torah’s perspective, it is the same as eating a piece of pork.
I don’t have a source for this next statement. Feel free to discard it. In Ohr Sameach, I asked why there were constant blood libels against the Jews. (The Hamas charter explicitly calls for the murder of all Jews worldwide, yet they get away with accusing Israel of genocide. ) They told me that it is Hashem trying to show the Jews how disgusting it is to make false accusations by letting us feel the pain of the falsely accused victim. May we all be zoche to have Hashem judge us favorably.And so, I am going to assume that your comments were intended to protect the CR from trolls which might be a mitzvah. As they say in the secular world, “My you be inscribed in the Book of Life.”
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