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April 15, 2013 5:10 pm at 5:10 pm #609011
There is an ad on the front page of YWN. It looks like a news story, but it’s a paid ad for Kupat Ha’Ir. The ad says this:
How can they make a claim like this? They are guaranteeing results! R’ Matisyahu Salomon got up in BMG a few years ago and blasted Kupat Ha’Ir for doing this. He said, “I have girls who call me, telling me they need a shidduch. Kupat Ha’Ir guaranteed that if they give a donation, they would get married quickly. They donated their life savings, and now, 2 years later, they’re still single – and now, they have no money either!” He said it was 100% wrong for Kupat Ha’Ir to guarantee results, yet they still do it.
This ad should either be taken down, or at least modified so it doesn’t guarantee results.April 15, 2013 6:43 pm at 6:43 pm #946042apushatayidParticipant
“How can they make a claim like this?”
As long as the print and electronic media sources are willing to take their money for the ads, and for as long as people respond to their ads by sending donations, they will not change their tune.April 15, 2013 7:47 pm at 7:47 pm #946043pou_bearMember
I presume there is some rabbinical supervision behind this organization…I hope.April 15, 2013 7:54 pm at 7:54 pm #946044dafyomi2711Member
kupat hair should know that better results come about if you just simply daven to hashem with kavana!April 15, 2013 8:32 pm at 8:32 pm #946045WIYMember
Yes and its about time they stopped photoshopping in pictures of Rav Chaim Kannievsky Shlita. He probably never even heard of the organization.April 15, 2013 8:38 pm at 8:38 pm #946046🐵 ⌨ GamanitParticipant
Note- I didn’t see the ad in question. According to the wording of the advertisement, they may be guaranteeing that the Rabbi’s tefilah will bring results… to them. You’re paying for the tefilah, bringing results to poor people in Bnei Brak.April 15, 2013 9:13 pm at 9:13 pm #946047Torah613TorahParticipant
Give me $50 and I’ll daven for you while being quiet as my teenage sibling(s) say bad things about me (and get a cut of the profits)April 16, 2013 12:58 pm at 12:58 pm #946049April 17, 2013 1:59 pm at 1:59 pm #946050
I think I’m going to put Kupat Ha’Ir to the test. My wife lost her job a while ago, and hasn’t had any luck finding a new one. I think I’m going to donate to them, asking for my wife to find a new job. We’ll see if it works!April 17, 2013 2:13 pm at 2:13 pm #946051
Ok, maybe not – they want $180 per person to do that! I don’t have $180 to spare, I just got the tuition bill for next year!
They have 2 things you can submit for – one says 40 days in Meron, which is $180. The other says 40 days in Meron until Lag Ba’Omer, which is $40. The link on the front page goes to the 40 days until Lag Ba’Omer, but that just doesn’t make sense.April 17, 2013 2:19 pm at 2:19 pm #946052🐵 ⌨ GamanitParticipant
Make sure to let us know… I know donating money l’illui nishmas R’ Meir Baal Hanes always helps find lost items. That isn’t specific to who you donate it to. Maybe it helps for finding jobs too… never tried it.April 17, 2013 2:40 pm at 2:40 pm #946053xx ImpersonatorMember
I’m looking to hire ladies, just recently fired. (hold it, did you donate yet?)April 17, 2013 3:24 pm at 3:24 pm #946054WolfishMusingsParticipant
“No” is an answer too.
In other words, they’re promising an answer (which they can’t) with the fallback position of “it was answered — no” which you (and they) have no way of knowing whether it is true or not.
The WolfApril 17, 2013 4:14 pm at 4:14 pm #946055rationalfrummieMember
This violates so many halachic- geneivas da’as, ona’as mamon, and perhaps even sheker. We don’t understand how Hashem works in this world. Saying otherwise is chutzpah. No one can be sure that their tefillos will or should be answered, even if they are said by tzaddikim. The best segulos are sincerity and tears.
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