Hafrashas Challah question/poll

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  • January 9, 2014 7:58 pm at 7:58 pm #611811
    rc
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    i am taking a poll. (or entertaining halchic viewpoints) at what point in the process are you (or your sig. other) being Mafrish your challah? Immediately after making the dough, or after the rising of the dough? Please answer, i need as many opinions as possible.. thanks…

    January 9, 2014 8:17 pm at 8:17 pm #997822
    DaMoshe
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    I believe my wife takes it off after it rises the first time, before she makes the dough into the individual challos. She then forms the challos, and lets them rise a 2nd time.

    The only time I make dough is when I make it in a bread machine. If I’m just making a dough, I am mafrish after it rises, as the rising is part of the cycle. If I’m baking it in the machine as well, I was told to cut off a piece of the finished bread as challah.

    January 9, 2014 8:28 pm at 8:28 pm #997823
    oomis
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    I take challah after the first rising, before I shape the loaves.

    January 9, 2014 8:41 pm at 8:41 pm #997824
    popa_bar_abba
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    Significant other?

    Do you mean wife?

    January 9, 2014 8:50 pm at 8:50 pm #997825
    rc
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    @pba: yes

    has anyone heard that the halacha says you should do it as soon as the dough is mixed so that you may not come to forget, or so that you may not come to eat it (taste it) or for zriszus lemitzvos…?? but lemaaseh , i cannot find anyone who actually does it that way…

    January 9, 2014 8:54 pm at 8:54 pm #997826
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    at what point in the process are you (or your sig. other) being Mafrish your challah?

    Just before forming the loaves.

    i need as many opinions as possible.

    Why do opinions matter here?

    If I’m baking it in the machine as well, I was told to cut off a piece of the finished bread as challah.

    Which machine makes a big enough batch to require Challah?

    January 9, 2014 9:30 pm at 9:30 pm #997827
    rc
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    @Dash: well i guess “opinions’ dont really matter, but if the halacha really says it should be done immediately, I am trying to figure out why the Olam doesn;t do it that way.. I have always done it right after rising, and this is how everyone i have spoken to does it. So if the halacha says “right away”, then where does this “minhag” come from. ?? and should we change the way we do it… (which i realize is a question for a posek, not this forum, but that is what i meant by “opnions”

    January 9, 2014 11:50 pm at 11:50 pm #997828
    DaMoshe
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    Dash: I was told that to make a brachah, you need 5 lbs. of flour. However, if you’re using 3 cups of flour or more, you must be mafrish challah without a brachah (up until 5 lbs. obviously.)

    January 10, 2014 12:36 am at 12:36 am #997829
    MDG
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    I separate after the dough is made, put it in a glass bowl, and the on the microwave. I cook it for a minute or so and turn it over to cook it for another minute. Sometimes a third minute is needed. Never just stick it in foir several minutes without checking it and flipping it. I have had dough balls catch on fire like that. Mamash flames and smoke.

    For amount to require Hafrasha, I try to take off according to Chacham Ovadia, which I believe is according to the Rambam in the 2nd Mishnah in Edyuot, which is 1660 grams – about 3.5 pounds.

    January 10, 2014 1:51 am at 1:51 am #997830
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    However, if you’re using 3 cups of flour or more, you must be mafrish challah without a brachah (up until 5 lbs. obviously.)

    I never heard of such a small shiur.

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