Hagel and Obama Home › Forums › Decaffeinated Coffee › Hagel and Obama This topic has 3 replies, 2 voices, and was last updated 11 years, 11 months ago by Charles Short. Viewing 4 posts - 1 through 4 (of 4 total) Author Posts January 6, 2013 11:26 pm at 11:26 pm #607717 Charles ShortMember Is this the feared Ishmael and Esau alliance that signals the end of the world? January 7, 2013 3:25 am at 3:25 am #917706 midwesternerParticipant Eisav and Yishmael? Maybe Cham and Yefes. January 7, 2013 7:11 pm at 7:11 pm #917707 Charles ShortMember I did not know Cham and Yefes were blessed to become the most powerful people in the world like benei Avroham. January 7, 2013 7:21 pm at 7:21 pm #917708 Charles ShortMember Some people might see it as Judah and Levi teamed up with Ishmael to overrule Ephraim and Menashe; now Ishmael is turning back on Judah and Levi and conspiring with Esav. But I guess its ultimately always Ephraims responsibility. Author Posts Viewing 4 posts - 1 through 4 (of 4 total) You must be logged in to reply to this topic. Log In Username: Password: Keep me signed in Log In