hair covering and married women
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October 10, 2011 5:40 am at 5:40 am #816470
Mishna Brura 75:15October 10, 2011 7:02 am at 7:02 am #816471HaKatanParticipant
Bottom line: does it look “nice” and “well-put together”, or does it clearly exceed that and demand inappropriate attention?
Is a long-hair sheitel the latter? Or the former? Or could it be either?October 10, 2011 1:11 pm at 1:11 pm #816473gavra_at_workParticipant
How long is “long”? 60 Denier? 80?
Justice Potter Stewart’s statement of “I know it when I see it” might apply, but makes bad halacha.October 10, 2011 1:46 pm at 1:46 pm #816474mw13Participant
“In addition, many women now wear sheitels. So many of them look so real that I can’t even tell if they’re wearing one. What is the point of covering your hair with someone else’s hair?”
Very good point; R’ Elyashiv (may he have a refuah shelaimah) holds the same. I quote:
Harsh Words Against Sheitels
(Tuesday, November 4th, 2008)
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The Rav repeated over and over again the severity of the isur of wearing such sheitels, which the wife and her husband share equal responsibility.
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There is no need to call Kol Haloshon in EYOctober 10, 2011 2:02 pm at 2:02 pm #816475yitayningwutParticipant
However, the statement is very ambiguous.
In regards to what is it d’rabbanan?
In regards to speaking ????? ??????? why would you say it’s d’rabbanan? Even if it’s an ?????? and ???? in societal norms, at any rate, if in a particular society it is something which can be called “ervah,” then the pasuk of ??? ???? ?? ???? ??? applies. Which would make it d’oraisa, unless you tell me that drasha is an ??????, but you would have to show your basis for saying that. And if in a particular society it is not called “ervah,” then it would be mutar, as the Aruch Hashulchan paskened and numerous other poskim.
In regards to covering it, I have already noted here and on a lot of other threads that I don’t believe this halacha primarily has anything to do with ??? ???? ????.
To everyone saying there is a problem with attractive sheitels: Please see my first post.October 10, 2011 2:03 pm at 2:03 pm #816476amusedParticipant
Wow, those are sharp words from the Godol HaDor shlit”a.October 10, 2011 4:19 pm at 4:19 pm #816477msseekerMember
“shlishi & msseeker- Look why don’t You call the Poskim and ask them?”
Because I don’t have a shaila. If I wanted to wear a long shaitel I’d definitely ask.October 10, 2011 9:30 pm at 9:30 pm #816478
There are Gedolim who do permit it.October 10, 2011 9:33 pm at 9:33 pm #816479Dr. SeussMember
Such as?October 10, 2011 9:54 pm at 9:54 pm #816480
Dr.Seuss:In Tshuvas HaGrach Rav Chaim Kanievsky was asked if the Chazon Ish and the Steipler permitted paos nachris, and he answered yes.(see Mishna Brura 75:15 for more info)October 10, 2011 10:05 pm at 10:05 pm #816481amusedParticipant
Define paos nachris.October 10, 2011 11:34 pm at 11:34 pm #816482NechomahParticipant
Some poskim would say that pe’a nochris is a synthetic sheitel, but others hold that anything made not from the woman’s own hair is a pe’a nochris.October 11, 2011 5:45 am at 5:45 am #816483HealthParticipant
msseeker -“Because I don’t have a shaila. If I wanted to wear a long shaitel I’d definitely ask.”
First of all, why would a man want to wear a Shaitel? I know I don’t want to wear one.
And the reason you don’t have a Shaila is because you Paskened for e/o on the page previously that it’s Ossur Gamor!October 11, 2011 6:56 am at 6:56 am #816484tahiniMember
My married girls have thick long hair they usually wear under an israeli style scarf. When they have a simcha the sheitels come out at their husbands’ requests, when their father first saw them he could not tell they were covering their hair. As a mother I had a dilemma, what to do? They looked gorgeous with their sheitels on, but the sheitels were so similar to natural hair, hard one.October 11, 2011 2:53 pm at 2:53 pm #816485HealthParticipant
tahini -“under an israeli style scarf”
Does any hair stick out from these scarfs?
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