HaRav Shmuel Auerbach: We Must Follow the Path of Gedolei Hadoros Not New Things

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    myfriend
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    “The world is full of external things that interfere with Torah study, and when we sit at the blatt of gemora we cleave to HaKadosh Boruch Hu, the Giver of the Torah, and therefore the yetzer hora tries to interfere. But we have an obligation to fight and not bow to it chas vesholom. We have an obligation to follow the path of the luminaries of the generations, not new things that we did not receive at Sinai through the tradition passed down to us throughout the generations. We must not get excited over new trends and not fear anything chas vesholom,” said HaRav Shmuel Auerbach shlita at a gathering in memory of HaRav Shach zt”l.

    At the event, which was held at Yeshivas Grodna in Ashdod to mark the yahrtzeit of Maran HaRav Shach, the author of Avi Ezri, HaRav Auerbach cited a remark he heard towards the end as Maran was making an account of what he would have to show for himself when he came before Beis Din Shel Maaloh. In his extraordinary humility he said he had forgotten much of what he had learned, but he said the knowledge that he engaged faithfully in tzorchei rabbim reassured him.

    “We must realize that when Rabbeinu Maran ztvk”l said he engaged in those affairs faithfully,' what he meant was a tremendous thing: he testified about himself that he put his whole heart into all he did, with no deviation or self- interest or leanings chas vesholom. When shared this with ylct"a Maran HaRav Yosef Sholom Eliashiv shlita, he was deeply impressed, saying he had never heard of such [dedication], and the fact that he truly actedfaithfully’ is the greatest of all attributes.

    “And indeed, all [of the questions] that Rabbeinu Hagodol zy”o answered, both public and private matters, were based on far-sighted vision. And in every matter the considerations he weighed reflected thought regarding what could emerge in the final analysis, even far off in the future.”

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    Joseph
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    bump

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    147
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    We Must Follow the Path of Gedolei Hadoros i.e. we Israeli Citizens must go and vote for the religious parties, in order to strengthen religious representation in the Israeli government. Talking anyone out of voting, is going against Da’as Torah of the leading Gedolei haDor.

    & not new things This is nothing new; The Chazon Ish already Paskened that we must vote for religious parties at all Israeli elections.

    #1077265
    zahavasdad
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    Rav Chaim Kanievesky and Rav Shteinman both voted in the past election

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    Joseph
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    The Brisker Rov and Rav Shternbuch didn’t vote.

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    Sam2
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    Good. So we have a Machlokes HaPoskim and follow whoever your Rav follows. No need to argue over this.

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    Rebbe Yid
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    No need to argue over a machlokes haposkim? So we should only argue over things on which there is unanimous agreement?

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    Sam2
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    Rebbe Yid: Fakhert. We now have unanimous agreement that there’s a Machlokes HaPoskim. How dumb and arrogant would someone have to be to say “Don’t vote because R’ Shteinman did” or “You have to vote because R’ Shternbuch didn’t”? Try telling one of them they’re wrong. Try it.

    If someone has Ra’ayos against one, we can discuss that. But don’t quote one and just ignore the others.

    #1077270
    Jewish Thinker
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    I never understood the not voting thing. Is it Three Oaths related?

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    Joseph
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    I think the non-voters only don’t vote in national elections but vote in municipal elections.

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    BarryLS1
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    If you don’t vote, you lose the right to complain and we all know how much we like to complain, lol.

    In reality, if you don’t vote, you get what you deserve.

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    por
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    Rav Yisroel Yaakov Fischer, zatzal, many of whose rulings were widely respected, poskened that voting was an issur of ye’hareig v’al ya’avor, since the Bagatz has ruled that in order to take the loyalty oath required to be seated in the Knesset one has to believe that the laws of the state have supremacy over any other laws, including Torah laws, chas v’shalom. Rav Moshe Sterbuch, shlita, once pointed out that ye’hareig v’al ya’avor overrides all other considerations and gave an example that if a group of a thousand Jews is surrounded by a far larger force of goyim and the goyim demand that the Jews choose on of their number to give over to the goyim to be killed, and if they don’t give one Jews over the goyim will come and kill the whole thousand, chas v’shalom. Still, it’s asur to give over one Jew to be killed under any and all circumstances, even in a case like this where the one Jews they would have given over and all the others will get killed.

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