Haredim denounce Ben Gvir Temple Mount provocation

nOmasorah: You are either playing really dumb or intentionally trolling. Videos of his political stunt are all over the media in the Arab world. Aside from intentionally going against the psak the majority of gadolei yisroel and most Chareidi Israelis, there will be fallout and potential violence from his actions.

Unless he has managed to become “Tahor”, and is going to the Har ha-Bayis to offer a korban, he has no business being there. All he does is it rub it in the noses of the Yishmaelim that they were conquered by the Zionists, which just encourages them to make mischief.

When the Bayis is rebuilt, combined with the demographic impact of techiyas meissim, the Arabs will be sufficiently impressed to stand down (and all those who pride themselves on their well paying jobs in the Kenesset will be unemployed since Eretz Yisrael will finally be a Jewish medinah, and have no need for the Zionist politicians, including the self-proclaimed Chareidi members of the Kenesset).

If it’s mutar or assur, is a taboo dispute.

Nobody really cares, including the Arabs.

It’s purely political.

One had to be tahor to enter the Beis ha-Mikdash. No one has been tahor for almost 2000 years. That is why the gedolim have consistently banned Yidden from entering the Beis ha-Mikdash, and why many areas of halacha impacted by the laws of tahorah/tumah are generally not observed and studied only as a highly specialized topic.

And even if taharos weren’t enough, trying to start a war with the Muslims is not in the interests of the Yidden in Eretz Yisrael.

Note that even if a dog is insane (i.e. mentally ill, even by dog standards), it remains unwise to kick him.

Yo – let them argue with their own rebbe; rabbi kook and his son, along with ALL of yhe chief rabbis, even the uneducated ones, forbade entering bar habayis.

A kol koreh (easily available online) shows the zionist rabbis, like chief rabbi unterman, along with gedolei yisroel such as rav shlomo zalman, rav elyashiv(recognized at the time even though he was pretty young) and hundreds others who signed on to it explicitly forbidding entry, and saying that there’s a safek isur kares.

The only official government rabbi who privately (but not publicly) gave a “heter” was shlomo goren, a man so dangerous that rav moshe – the only time in his life – threw him out of his house during the mamzerim controversy.

Goren showed a willingness, much to the joy of the secular, to bend halacha to fit the medina, zionism, and their supposed needs. his being matir a mamzer gave the zionists the false idea that “where there’s a rabbinic will, there’s a rabbinic way.”

And even he only told people privately.

What about the OO rabbonim who are matir?

Even if it’s a sfek-sfeiko, it is a deirayso matter.

the real reason that rabbis forbid it, is that we don’t know where the kodshei kedoshim is. so you might be entering an area that only a kohen godol may enter.
no one chapt this?

Dora,

Are you accusing Chareidi politicians in EY, of “travel on shabbos or eat at locations serving treifus” Do you have a factual basis to allege this?

Understand please that even the few rabbis who allow going onto Har HaBayis only allow it in certain restricted places and only after being tovel in a mikveh whcih is kosher for women and only after complying with all of the many restrictions women have when they go to the mikveh and only after making a berachah on the mikveh.
NONE OF THESE was practiced by Ben Gvir who risked a chiuv kares R”l for supposed political gains.

RBZS, how do you know he did not go to the mikve and went to the wrong areas? Also, not making a brocha does not invalidate the tevila.

N0mesora, although we are sure we can steer clear of the Makom Hamikdosh, I do think Akuperman is right that you can’t go into Har Habayis for a walk. They would be like קפנדריא.

Also, being that no one looks out טומאות יוצאות מן הגוף, you would need ז’ נקיים.

N0m: What nafka mina are you trying to make to the underlying point with your addendum?

And what makes you believe your addition is accurate?

Dear Ujm,

The difference is that it negotiable. It’s not something that is intrinsically intolerable to the Arabs. The British were allowed all kinds of access until the Arabs realized that it meant something to them. It’s extortion. The same extortion that governs all Arab countries. It’s part of their value system. As alluded to in the Koran.