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  • #1236708
    dunno
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    What exactly is a “harry”??

    #2026572
    HaLeiVi
    Participant

    Ever got your answer yet?

    He’s Tom and Dick’s friend. The equivalent to חיליק וביליק.

    #2026647
    ujm
    Participant

    HaLeiVi: I gave him his answer over 13 years ago:

    “Harry”

    #2026701
    HaLeiVi
    Participant

    Oh. I see. I guess they didn’t keep “This Side Up” when they transferred the site.

    #2026728
    Health
    Participant

    Donno -“What exactly is a “harry”??”

    It’s the Litvish version of Tuna Bagel, which is Chaddish.

    #2026767
    AviraDeArah
    Participant

    Health, that’s not accurate. A “tuna bagel” refers to one who grew up chasidish and has become westernized, save for his pronunciation which remains chasidish.

    A “Harry” typically refers to a completely observant but Americanized Jewish person. He will dress in non- yeshivish clothes, and will be unaware of yeshivish customs and social norms. He is characterized by a specific way of talking, typically nasal and always with an “o” for a cholam instead of an “oi”.

    #2026768
    ujm
    Participant

    You’re late to the Bar Mitzvah, Health.

    #2026769
    midwesterner
    Participant

    I would say it’s the opposite of a Teena Bagel. The Teena Bagel is one who has all the externalities of Chassidus but none of the pnimiyus. A Harry means someone lacking in the chitzoniyus.

    #2026808
    HaLeiVi
    Participant

    Midwesterner, that’s a fantastic way to put it.

    #2026816
    AviraDeArah
    Participant

    I agree with Midwesterner too

    #2026836
    ujm
    Participant

    A Harry is never Chasidish.

    #2026877
    Participant
    Participant

    “and always with an “o” for a cholam instead of an “oi”.”
    Which is the accurate pronunciation.

    #2026888
    Health
    Participant

    Avra, ujm, mw, -“Health, that’s not accurate, etc.”

    Let me explain something – these names are Slang, not dictionary words.
    So you are all correct, but so am I.

    So a “Harry” can be a Litvak – s/o OTD or just a Modern Guy.
    A Tuna Bagel is a Chaddishe guy, which can be s/o OTD or just a ModerrNa.

    #2026919
    Ober Chochom
    Participant

    The way I view it, a harry is the one who says ‘Yeshivish’ (without the I being pronounced as eee) not Yesheevish.
    A harry is also someone who in their family’s culture, it’s normal for them to have the name Harry in the family.

    #2026955
    AviraDeArah
    Participant

    Participant; it probably is correct, but it doesn’t change the cultural association

    Health; slang has use and is defined by its common usage. I’ve never heard Harry used to describe a litvak, OTD or MO person. I’ve only heard it used to describe people who are shomer torah umitzvos fully, but dress more American, don’t use yeshivish lingo, go by English names(that’s a given), and are otherwise removed culturally(but not religiously) from the Yeshiva world

    #2026975
    Health
    Participant

    Avra – You missed my point.
    Only Litvish are called Harrys.
    Chaddisidim are called Tuna Bagels.

    Either one when called that name, can either be OTD or just Modern.

    #2026986
    🍫Syag Lchochma
    Participant

    Health – sorry, you are totally off on this one.

    #2027125
    Health
    Participant

    Syag -“Health – sorry, you are totally off on this one.”

    You don’t have to agree with All my posts.

    One thing for sure – Who ever created these names & those that use them – they are Rank outs.
    It’s an Aveira, even if you think it’s Just Funny!

    #2034772
    kevod kedushas
    Participant

    i think the oilam is missing the boat – the term harry is just slang for someone who missed the boat when it comes to yeshievish hanhagos

    #2034802
    Novelty
    Participant

    ujm, sorry but I have to disagree. I have a chasidishe relative who is a “Harry”… at least on his English birth certificate! 😉

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