May 7, 2013 12:57 am at 12:57 am #609242
I saw a non-glatt brand of meat called Tomer Kosher Foods.
The company makes jerky, ground beef, and other different cuts.
These products are under the hashgacha of the Triangle K and Rabbi Elimelech Zalman Leibowtiz.
The website says about him: “Rabbi Elimelech Zalman Lebowitz is the Head Kashrut Coordinator of the Religious Court for Kosher Affairs and officiates as the community spiritual leader and rabbi as well as the religious legal advisor for Congregation Shaarei Halacha, located in Brooklyn, New York. Additionally, he serves as a religious judge for the Union of Orthodox Rabbis of the United States and Canada.
Rabbi Lebowitz has contributed to growth of the kashrut industry and its standards in various capacities including, being a founding member of Community Kashrus Organization as well as the Kashrus Information Center.
In his previous kosher supervising capacity, Rabbi Lebowitz served as Rabbinic Coordinator and religious judge with the Orthodox Union, supervising 65 companies with over 150 plants, in countries including China, India, Spain and the USA.
Rabbi Lebowitz received rabbinic ordination from the Mir Yeshiva in 1980. Rabbi Lebowitz is a prolific writer and contributor of articles on matters of Jewish, religious law and Jewish philosophy and law.”
The hechsher also mentions “”Tiferes Yisroel”
Who is this rav hamachshir? What are his standards? And would those who don’t hold glatt is necessary eat from this hechsher?May 7, 2013 1:18 am at 1:18 am #951906
I personally know him and am pretty sure he is pretty well known in Flatbush. He is the rav of a shul on 35th and L. Kind of surprised that he would give a hechsher on non-glatt meat.May 7, 2013 2:26 am at 2:26 am #951907
He gives the hechsher along with Rabbi Aryeh Ralbag, another giant in Torah. There is no halakhic reason for Ashkenazim to be makpid on glatt.May 7, 2013 8:57 pm at 8:57 pm #951908Ðash®Participant
Looks like someone forgot to use his sockpuppet account.May 8, 2013 7:12 pm at 7:12 pm #951909
I acknowledge giftedness and gadlus when I see it.
If Rabbi Ralbag or Rabbi Lebowitz are on this level, why would you refuse to eat their products, if you feel halak isn’t me’akev (like the Rema)?May 8, 2013 7:58 pm at 7:58 pm #951910
There is no halakhic reason for Ashkenazim to be makpid on glatt.
You’re wrong under almost (if not literal) every definition of “glatt”.
1) If glatt is used in the vernacular, it refers to a general higher standard. Of course there’s a reason to be makpid on a stricter standard of who is a yarei shomayim for shecitah and bedikah (as an example).
2) If glatt is used as in “OU glatt”, which is acceptable for Ashkenazim but not Sefardim, then “not glatt” would refer to a looser standard, within the Rema’s shittah, of how easily a sirchah is removed yet still considered glatt.
3) Even if referring to Bais Yosef glatt (which in this case it isn’t), saying “there’s no reason” ignores the fact that the Rem’a himself refers to it as a “kula gedolah”, and that many yorei shomayim, even Ashkenazim, are makpid on the Mechaber’s glatt.May 8, 2013 10:29 pm at 10:29 pm #951911Rav TuvParticipant
I acknowledge giftedness and gadlus when I see it.
RD you meant to say gadlut…but I took your statement as a misspelling of G-dless.May 8, 2013 10:31 pm at 10:31 pm #951912Rav TuvParticipant
He gives the hechsher along with Rabbi Aryeh Ralbag, another giant in Torah. There is no halakhic reason for Ashkenazim to be makpid on glatt.
So why are you answering your troll question? Dash is 100% correct. Gotcha.May 9, 2013 1:05 am at 1:05 am #951913
@ musser zoger
not that I agree with rebdoniel but his question was legitimate (albeit weirdly worded). not sure what your issue is.May 9, 2013 4:28 am at 4:28 am #951914
He asked a question in one post, then answered in another. I don’t know why he did that, but apparently, some trolls do that (but they answer using different screen names). I don’t participate in other forums, but Joseph did a lot of that (it’s humorous to see, when looking back at old threads, because the mods have id’d many of his screen names).May 9, 2013 5:36 am at 5:36 am #951915
@DY guess i haven’t been around here long enough to get the nuances of the best of CR troll tactics.May 9, 2013 7:51 am at 7:51 am #951916
I can assure you that I do not represent either of these chashuve rabbonim in any capacity; I’ve davened and went to daf yomi at YI of Avenue K before, and I do buy certain items with Triangle K, but that is about it.
And these rabbonim are gifted; R’ Ralbag is respected world-wide.May 9, 2013 12:53 pm at 12:53 pm #951917
R’ Ralbag is respected world-wide.
There are some very choshu’ve people who have major issues with him (not only regarding kashrus).
Let’s just say that he is not universally accepted and leave it at that. (I wouldn’t normally post this, but I feel the need to counter rebdoniel’s misleading statement.)May 9, 2013 6:31 pm at 6:31 pm #951918
I always found it odd that his bet din is accepted on gittin, geirus, etc., but that his hechsher wasn’t seen as universally acceptable.May 10, 2013 3:59 am at 3:59 am #951919
I always found it odd that his bet din is accepted on gittin, geirus, etc.
I can’t disagree with your equation, because I wouldn’t go to his beis din either.
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