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On a first date should the boy keep on his hat(they are sitting)
It depends what type of car he’s driving.
No
From experience, most don’t.
It depends how many times the question is posted!
It depends if he has hair or if he’s bald
protocol in the general yeshivish world calls for the hat to be left on for the whole first date. Don’t judge a guy negatively if he does. Some would dump him outright for not leaving it on.
Daas yochid:he actually doesn’t drive
Well, then, according to one poster, it’s hopeless anyway.
I know a guy who didn’t take off his hat until the vort. He was bald.
Okay so the guy has actually gorgeus hair
Then he’ll probably take off his hat in the taxi so it shouldn’t get messed up.
Come on- If he could take off his coat, why can’t he take off his hat? It’s not like he’s davening or something. I guess it depends on the guy, but I think it sure makes the situation, which already has it’s share of awkwardness, a little more relaxed.
Ya but someone else might dump him. I say play it safe. He can take it off on date 2
Why does he need to wear a hat on a date? Is this halacha?
wtvr u do, just be confident and be urself…if ur not comfortable wearing it the whole time, i say take it off and leave it in the backseat of the car…but please note, this is coming from a girl who only one of my dates were a hat ever!!
mamash – Who mentioned anything about halacha?
R-B, if it’s not halacha, then why wear a hat on a date?
Wearing a necktie or shoes is also not halacha.
Shoes? (Were you being serious?) If not, then I say :
Red cowboy hat, green shirt, purple pants, orange/black striped tie, fake mustache, golden shoes, yellow socks, gray gloves.
Who agrees with me?
zeeskite: lol!
Wearing a necktie or shoes is also not halacha.
That’s entirely true. One can wear sandals and skip the tie.
If one wear sandals and skips the tie (over his Hawaiian shirt – also not against halacha, right?), then even I agree there is nothing wrong if he takes off his Borsalino hat when sitting down with with the girl on their first date.
college is assur
mamash – Correct, and one can choose not to wear a hat as well.
Its a nice gesture to remove one’s hat during the National Anthem. He should replace it afterwards, (tilted back, brim flipped up)
That way, there’s no chance he’ll forget to replace it when making a shehakol / boreh nefashos.
college is mutar.
(even if there are women in the college this is a case of lekah darkah achrinah, bava basra nun zain amud beis, like anyone who has learned the sugyah knows.)
Rama 246:4, Birkas Shmuel (Kiddushin #27 p.42), Kovetz Shiurim II:47, etc. pasken college is assur. Rav Moshe Feinstein ZT’L also denounced college in a Teshuva, and in a famous speech delivered to his students, published under the title “The Counsel of the Wicked” (Vaad LeHaromas Keren HaTorah, New York, 1978). There is a tape available in many Seforim stores called “The prohibition to learn in Colleges” (Yiddish), which contains addresses by Rav Moshe Feinstein ZT’L and Rav Aharon Kotler ZT’L condemning college.
Why not close this thread now, since we’ve made the obligatory topic change to something more controversial?
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