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need some good ideas. i have non jewish music in my head all day and need to get it out. i really try not to listen at home, on my own but when im with other people who are playing it theres not much i can do besides for try to block it out. i travel for 2 hours a day w this music and its in my head all day then.. know how bad it is for me to listen to it but i cant block it out.. ideas pleaseee?
Earphones.
You can’t erase it, you have to replace it. When I stopped listening to secular music I found Jewish stuff I liked and kept it on me. I also found cool torah tapes like Rabbi Orlovsky and Rabbi Wallerstein for long rides.
do u know if i cud put torahanytime stuff on an ipod?
Yup. Press ‘download’ instead of ‘play’.
yes you can put shiurim including from torahanytime on your ipod or mp3, just plug it into your computer and drag those shiurim into the music folder or the like on your player. Music too if you have! I listen to music or shiurim while traveling every day. When i need to study and the music is disrupting my concentration, i turn it off but keep in my headphones to block out the outside music and noise
i know some people dont agree with listening to jewish english songs,they say they arent frum…but i find that listening to jewish remakes of goyish songs help me not listen to the “real” songs whenin public i autamaticly hear the jewish words
The purple
How can a bus driver for a beis yakov blast non Jewish music? Can the school do something about it?
ThePurpleOne
Then get your own mp3 player and listen to your own music or shiurim or whatever interests you.
The time I stopped listening to English music was during sfira like 5 years ago. I started listening to talk radio ( might seem boring to you). Once sfira was over I was so over the music, and have been listening to talk ever since. I’m not sure how old you are ( my love of politics and current events started in hs) but you can listen to it in your iPod its really entertaining and interesting and you will always have what to talk about when you’re around adults!
Obviously shiurim are a great solution too ( better) but if you want something other than music to distract you…
ThePurpleOne,
The driver was hired by the parents. The parents have every right to, and should, have the driver turn off his radio.
If there’s a CD player in the bus, give him Jewish CDs to put on, if you’d like.
but i find that listening to jewish remakes of goyish songs help me not listen to the “real” songs whenin public i autamaticly hear the jewish words
Interesting perspective. One of the main problems with the remakes is the reverse; people tend to think of the original lyrics even when hearing the parody.
the purple one- yes so true,your absolutly right,its a very unfortuante problem that needs to be solved haha
It is, if anything, a chillul Hashem to let him keep playing that music while you’re in the bus.
ThePurpleOne
Get him an Avraham Fried, Shwekey, Benny Friedman or some other popular CD and let him play that. Not everyone has to love it, the point is to stop listening to soul pollution. You can take a vote on what cd to get based on the majority of who people like.
Purp
The point is that the parents should make the request. He has to listen as they are paying him he works for the parents. Russian Opera may be better. Ask a shaila.
I recently stopped listening to English music, but my bus also has English music blasting in the morning and on the way home so I have my own iPod with Jewish music that I listen to so I won’t hear the music that the bus driver plays.
Kkls45, great job!
Thanx DaasYochid!
What’s wrong with Russian opera? As long as you don’t understand the words…
Thepurpleone that’s great to if its keeping u away from the English music…can’t do everything at once especially at the beg so keep it up! I listen to both Shweky ybc etc and 8th day matisyahu type of songs
Thepurpleone I totally understand u..last year i decided that i wanted to stop, and i did for a few months, but then towards the end of the year i was really upset about something and whenever i was stressed out i would just start listening to it again so i continued but then at the begining of this year i decided that i was going to stop for real this time..it was very hard and i did listen 3 times since then but each time i felt guilty and horrible after so now whenever i have that urge i just try to remember that feeling..
u have good friends! im sure that it will b/c even if u want to listen to it, u wont have it there availible for u to listen to at all times.
So u def have good support..something that I did not have. My iPod also has radio on it and that’s how I listened those 3 times, but rlly on the radio the songs that u r in the mood of r never on wen u want them..and ya it’s hard I’m not gonna say that it’s not but uve got to have self control. Just remember that ur making yourself a better person by doing this and Hashem is proud 🙂
And ur rlly strong also good job! Hashem is forsure proud of u now and don’t give it up if He doesn’t say yes to your tefillos now…only He knows what’s best for u. I’m also talking to myself as I’m saying that cuz I def need to remember that also
Purple, I don’t know if you can tell Hashem how to answer your tefillos.
ThePurpleOne-
As I said before, u mite think that u no wat is good for u even tho it mite not be. I probably shouldn’t be answering this since I’m just in hs myself, but I just think that if ur trying to become a better person it should be for yourself and not by trying to make deals with God.
I’m pretty sure that nobody here has a taava for listening to Russian opera.
One thing that helps when one is trying to avoid music with an anti-spiritual message is to ask yourself what, exactly, you are looking for in your music.
Jewish artists pretty much run the gamut from cantorial pieces to Eastern-European folk songs to synth/electronica to classic rock to hip-hop and back again. If it’s simply the style that moves you, there are Jewish artists out there who retain the musical style but substitute a more spiritual message.
Figure out what it is you like and plan accordingly. You might find that can even be completely inoffensive, beautifully arranged musical works written by non-Jews. Simply writing off anything for the crime of its being sung in “English” is a very constricting set of parameters to bide by.
Take the time to do it right, especially if you’re someone who loves music.
“not exactly keeping me away from english music.. im RLLY trying, trust me!! its a huge struggle that a lot of ppl cant understand..”
-Secular music artists spend years in school learning the science behind music, what gets people to move with catchy beats and lyrics, etc. Jewish musicians don’t (for the most part) follow these rules. It is completely understandable that it is a huge struggle because they create their music to be addictive.
“Purple, I don’t know if you can tell Hashem how to answer your tefillos.”
-Hashem created us as human beings, not as robots and not as melachim. He wants us to have a relationship with Him. We’re not here just to mindlessly prattle prayers while blindly following the letter of the law. He wants our heart. We can tell Hashem whatever we want.
Helpful for the radio, i tried this for a bit but stopped- take radio of your main menu list. This way when you turn your ipod on it wont be right there for you but if you ever want it, theres still a way to access it. Youre doing great!
ThePurpleOne
I think that when it comes to inyanim of Ruchniyus, if you really want it and try hard to do whats right and not do what isnt, and Daven to Hashem with a lot of kavvanah He will answer and help you because it is what He wants, He wants you to grow and He wants you to be close to Him.
The point of trying so hard is NOT to get hashem to answer your tefillos. You try hard for you.
Yes it is true- what you want may not be good for you. But as you grow what is good for you changes. So you may be davening for something and it wasnt being answered because it wasnt good for you. When you change, what is good for you changes too
“who’s above that level that doesn’t daven for anything?”
-Not possible. The higher level a person is on, the more they realize that everything is from Hashem and the more they realize that tefila is needed for every single tiny, minute, thing in life. So if someone isn’t davening for anything they are not ‘above’ a level. The thing that does change is that they will be davening for different things. For example, you may daven that your parents buy you the newest ipod while they will be davening to feel the shechina more on shabbos.
“i know so why doesnt He answer our tefillos sometimes?”
-We were taught that Moshe davened 550 tefillos (i think that was the number) to be allowed into eretz yisroel, and Hashem still said no. But we learned that Moshe knew that if he would’ve davened just one more tefilla, Hashem would’ve let. So apparently tefilla can convince Hashem to give us things, even if they are bad for us!
Hashem created you because he loves you and he wants to give good to you. If Hashem isn’t giving you what you want, it’s one of two things. Either it’s because Hashem wants you do daven harder or it’s because it’s bad for you. The last thing you want is for Hashem to give you something that’s bad for you, so when I daven for something that I really want I tell Hashem, ‘I really want this but if it’s bad for me, please help me understand why’. Sometimes it takes longer than I want for me to see a good reason why things didn’t work out how I asked, but if I continue davening, eventually I do understand. The most important thing is to know that whether or not you get it, it’s because Hashem decided, and make sure that you never stop davening for everything.
Purple, this is a warning. You need to cut down on the txtspk.
Thank you.
haifagirl: I agree.
Purple, what I mean to say is, you don’t know how Hashem is answering your tefilos. Your sister will get married when it is her time, and you will get married in your time. Maybe Hashem is saving your tefilos for the right time! Of course you can ask for whatever you want, but Hashem may say “No” if it wouldn’t be good for you.
Maybe your sister is finishing a degree now and will be more relaxed if she meets the right one in the summer. Maybe her zivug needs to grow a little more to be worthy of her. Your tefilos will help it be good, but you can’t take her not getting engaged yet as a sign that they weren’t answered. Hashem loves every one of your tefilos, and they will all ultimately be answered for the best outcome that will enable everyone to serve Hashem in the best way for them.
Interjection: Excellent piece. Only one comment. It was 515 tefillos. Gematria of Va’eschanan.
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