February 25, 2013 3:35 am at 3:35 am #608339
need some good ideas. i have non jewish music in my head all day and need to get it out. i really try not to listen at home, on my own but when im with other people who are playing it theres not much i can do besides for try to block it out. i travel for 2 hours a day w this music and its in my head all day then.. know how bad it is for me to listen to it but i cant block it out.. ideas pleaseee?February 25, 2013 4:06 am at 4:06 am #933972YW Moderator-127Moderator
Earphones.February 25, 2013 5:15 am at 5:15 am #933973🍫Syag LchochmaParticipant
You can’t erase it, you have to replace it. When I stopped listening to secular music I found Jewish stuff I liked and kept it on me. I also found cool torah tapes like Rabbi Orlovsky and Rabbi Wallerstein for long rides.February 25, 2013 5:58 am at 5:58 am #933974
good advice. maybe ill try it. its such a nisayon its so hard.. i travel 2 skl and theres english music blaring and doesnt help the sitch when im tryng 2 study.. do u know if i cud put torahanytime stuff on an ipod?February 25, 2013 6:09 am at 6:09 am #933975🍫Syag LchochmaParticipant
do u know if i cud put torahanytime stuff on an ipod?
Yup. Press ‘download’ instead of ‘play’.February 25, 2013 6:22 am at 6:22 am #933976SaysMeMember
yes you can put shiurim including from torahanytime on your ipod or mp3, just plug it into your computer and drag those shiurim into the music folder or the like on your player. Music too if you have! I listen to music or shiurim while traveling every day. When i need to study and the music is disrupting my concentration, i turn it off but keep in my headphones to block out the outside music and noiseFebruary 25, 2013 5:33 pm at 5:33 pm #933977BYbychoiceMember
i know some people dont agree with listening to jewish english songs,they say they arent frum…but i find that listening to jewish remakes of goyish songs help me not listen to the “real” songs whenin public i autamaticly hear the jewish wordsFebruary 25, 2013 6:42 pm at 6:42 pm #933978
How can a bus driver for a beis yakov blast non Jewish music? Can the school do something about it?February 25, 2013 7:10 pm at 7:10 pm #933979
ya but theres not aka pella for every song.. 😉
its private transportation.. the skool has nothing to do w it…February 25, 2013 7:41 pm at 7:41 pm #933980
Then get your own mp3 player and listen to your own music or shiurim or whatever interests you.February 25, 2013 8:30 pm at 8:30 pm #933981MorahRachMember
The time I stopped listening to English music was during sfira like 5 years ago. I started listening to talk radio ( might seem boring to you). Once sfira was over I was so over the music, and have been listening to talk ever since. I’m not sure how old you are ( my love of politics and current events started in hs) but you can listen to it in your iPod its really entertaining and interesting and you will always have what to talk about when you’re around adults!
Obviously shiurim are a great solution too ( better) but if you want something other than music to distract you…February 25, 2013 8:48 pm at 8:48 pm #933982
The driver was hired by the parents. The parents have every right to, and should, have the driver turn off his radio.
If there’s a CD player in the bus, give him Jewish CDs to put on, if you’d like.February 25, 2013 8:55 pm at 8:55 pm #933983
but i find that listening to jewish remakes of goyish songs help me not listen to the “real” songs whenin public i autamaticly hear the jewish words
Interesting perspective. One of the main problems with the remakes is the reverse; people tend to think of the original lyrics even when hearing the parody.February 25, 2013 9:25 pm at 9:25 pm #933984
im w her on this one.. i think of the jewish lyrics when the original is playing.. rly good in my opinion..
the parents CUD make him turn it off, or fire him, but hes jewish and cud be a chilul hashem.. im not sure if hes shomer shabb even.. and i dont even know what music we wud put on.. some ppl dont agree w my music either… i dont listen to ybc or english music.. i call it the middleground;)February 25, 2013 10:46 pm at 10:46 pm #933985BYbychoiceMember
the purple one- yes so true,your absolutly right,its a very unfortuante problem that needs to be solved hahaFebruary 25, 2013 11:03 pm at 11:03 pm #933986
It is, if anything, a chillul Hashem to let him keep playing that music while you’re in the bus.February 25, 2013 11:23 pm at 11:23 pm #933987
Get him an Avraham Fried, Shwekey, Benny Friedman or some other popular CD and let him play that. Not everyone has to love it, the point is to stop listening to soul pollution. You can take a vote on what cd to get based on the majority of who people like.February 25, 2013 11:35 pm at 11:35 pm #933988
the driver does not want to listen to jewish music.its either english,or russian opera..February 26, 2013 12:01 am at 12:01 am #933989
The point is that the parents should make the request. He has to listen as they are paying him he works for the parents. Russian Opera may be better. Ask a shaila.February 26, 2013 3:50 am at 3:50 am #933990
I recently stopped listening to English music, but my bus also has English music blasting in the morning and on the way home so I have my own iPod with Jewish music that I listen to so I won’t hear the music that the bus driver plays.February 26, 2013 4:27 am at 4:27 am #933991
Kkls45, great job!February 26, 2013 4:33 am at 4:33 am #933992
Thanx DaasYochid!February 26, 2013 4:51 am at 4:51 am #933993
wow good 4 u.. im in kinda the same boat as u and prob guna start using my ipod.. w my middleground music!! i dont listen to shwekey and ybc.. more like matisyahu, shaindel antelis, 8th day..February 26, 2013 5:05 am at 5:05 am #933994
What’s wrong with Russian opera? As long as you don’t understand the words…February 26, 2013 5:06 am at 5:06 am #933995
Thepurpleone that’s great to if its keeping u away from the English music…can’t do everything at once especially at the beg so keep it up! I listen to both Shweky ybc etc and 8th day matisyahu type of songsFebruary 26, 2013 5:45 am at 5:45 am #933996
not exactly keeping me away from english music.. im RLLY trying, trust me!! its a huge struggle that a lot of ppl cant understand..February 26, 2013 10:43 pm at 10:43 pm #933997
Thepurpleone I totally understand u..last year i decided that i wanted to stop, and i did for a few months, but then towards the end of the year i was really upset about something and whenever i was stressed out i would just start listening to it again so i continued but then at the begining of this year i decided that i was going to stop for real this time..it was very hard and i did listen 3 times since then but each time i felt guilty and horrible after so now whenever i have that urge i just try to remember that feeling..February 26, 2013 11:13 pm at 11:13 pm #933998
i totally understand u and know how u feel.. its SO hard… iyh my frends guna put only jewish music on my ipod and delete everything else!! hope itll help me!!!February 26, 2013 11:25 pm at 11:25 pm #933999
u have good friends! im sure that it will b/c even if u want to listen to it, u wont have it there availible for u to listen to at all times.February 26, 2013 11:39 pm at 11:39 pm #934000
thanx:) ya she actually quite english music at the beg of this yr and shes rly strong abt it!! ya but umm radio?? its actually a lil stupid cuz i have radio on my ipod.. bt self control hopefully!!!February 27, 2013 12:16 am at 12:16 am #934001
So u def have good support..something that I did not have. My iPod also has radio on it and that’s how I listened those 3 times, but rlly on the radio the songs that u r in the mood of r never on wen u want them..and ya it’s hard I’m not gonna say that it’s not but uve got to have self control. Just remember that ur making yourself a better person by doing this and Hashem is proud 🙂February 27, 2013 12:55 am at 12:55 am #934002
wow ur rly strong, good 4 u!! trust me right now im holding on and didnt listen this whole week even when i wanted to.. and i hope Hashem shows me how proud He is by answerng my tefillos..February 27, 2013 1:09 am at 1:09 am #934003
And ur rlly strong also good job! Hashem is forsure proud of u now and don’t give it up if He doesn’t say yes to your tefillos now…only He knows what’s best for u. I’m also talking to myself as I’m saying that cuz I def need to remember that alsoFebruary 27, 2013 1:11 am at 1:11 am #934004
Purple, I don’t know if you can tell Hashem how to answer your tefillos.February 27, 2013 2:15 am at 2:15 am #934005
if im trying SOO hard?? then wats the point of trying so hard?February 27, 2013 2:22 am at 2:22 am #934006
As I said before, u mite think that u no wat is good for u even tho it mite not be. I probably shouldn’t be answering this since I’m just in hs myself, but I just think that if ur trying to become a better person it should be for yourself and not by trying to make deals with God.February 27, 2013 2:33 am at 2:33 am #934007ari-freeParticipant
I’m pretty sure that nobody here has a taava for listening to Russian opera.February 27, 2013 2:37 am at 2:37 am #934008David Bar-MagenMember
One thing that helps when one is trying to avoid music with an anti-spiritual message is to ask yourself what, exactly, you are looking for in your music.
Jewish artists pretty much run the gamut from cantorial pieces to Eastern-European folk songs to synth/electronica to classic rock to hip-hop and back again. If it’s simply the style that moves you, there are Jewish artists out there who retain the musical style but substitute a more spiritual message.
Figure out what it is you like and plan accordingly. You might find that can even be completely inoffensive, beautifully arranged musical works written by non-Jews. Simply writing off anything for the crime of its being sung in “English” is a very constricting set of parameters to bide by.
Take the time to do it right, especially if you’re someone who loves music.February 27, 2013 3:04 pm at 3:04 pm #934010interjectionParticipant
“not exactly keeping me away from english music.. im RLLY trying, trust me!! its a huge struggle that a lot of ppl cant understand..”
-Secular music artists spend years in school learning the science behind music, what gets people to move with catchy beats and lyrics, etc. Jewish musicians don’t (for the most part) follow these rules. It is completely understandable that it is a huge struggle because they create their music to be addictive.
“Purple, I don’t know if you can tell Hashem how to answer your tefillos.”
-Hashem created us as human beings, not as robots and not as melachim. He wants us to have a relationship with Him. We’re not here just to mindlessly prattle prayers while blindly following the letter of the law. He wants our heart. We can tell Hashem whatever we want.March 1, 2013 12:23 am at 12:23 am #934012fkellyMember
Helpful for the radio, i tried this for a bit but stopped- take radio of your main menu list. This way when you turn your ipod on it wont be right there for you but if you ever want it, theres still a way to access it. Youre doing great!March 1, 2013 12:44 am at 12:44 am #934013
I think that when it comes to inyanim of Ruchniyus, if you really want it and try hard to do whats right and not do what isnt, and Daven to Hashem with a lot of kavvanah He will answer and help you because it is what He wants, He wants you to grow and He wants you to be close to Him.March 1, 2013 6:26 pm at 6:26 pm #934014
i know so why doesnt He answer our tefillos sometimes?
and i already know what your gonna say.. Hashem knows whats best for us, and we dont, and He listens even if He doesnt answer and every tefilla is used for something later on in life and blah blah.. but how does that explain my question? this is wat is shoved in our throats our whole lives..March 1, 2013 7:15 pm at 7:15 pm #934015fkellyMember
The point of trying so hard is NOT to get hashem to answer your tefillos. You try hard for you.
Yes it is true- what you want may not be good for you. But as you grow what is good for you changes. So you may be davening for something and it wasnt being answered because it wasnt good for you. When you change, what is good for you changes tooMarch 1, 2013 9:23 pm at 9:23 pm #934016
OK but you KNOW that you daven so you could ask for stuff… who’s above that level that doesn’t daven for anything?
Purple, this is a warning. You need to cut down on the txtspk.March 2, 2013 6:12 pm at 6:12 pm #934017interjectionParticipant
“who’s above that level that doesn’t daven for anything?”
-Not possible. The higher level a person is on, the more they realize that everything is from Hashem and the more they realize that tefila is needed for every single tiny, minute, thing in life. So if someone isn’t davening for anything they are not ‘above’ a level. The thing that does change is that they will be davening for different things. For example, you may daven that your parents buy you the newest ipod while they will be davening to feel the shechina more on shabbos.
“i know so why doesnt He answer our tefillos sometimes?”
-We were taught that Moshe davened 550 tefillos (i think that was the number) to be allowed into eretz yisroel, and Hashem still said no. But we learned that Moshe knew that if he would’ve davened just one more tefilla, Hashem would’ve let. So apparently tefilla can convince Hashem to give us things, even if they are bad for us!
Hashem created you because he loves you and he wants to give good to you. If Hashem isn’t giving you what you want, it’s one of two things. Either it’s because Hashem wants you do daven harder or it’s because it’s bad for you. The last thing you want is for Hashem to give you something that’s bad for you, so when I daven for something that I really want I tell Hashem, ‘I really want this but if it’s bad for me, please help me understand why’. Sometimes it takes longer than I want for me to see a good reason why things didn’t work out how I asked, but if I continue davening, eventually I do understand. The most important thing is to know that whether or not you get it, it’s because Hashem decided, and make sure that you never stop davening for everything.March 2, 2013 7:21 pm at 7:21 pm #934018haifagirlParticipant
Purple, this is a warning. You need to cut down on the txtspk.
Thank you.March 3, 2013 2:10 am at 2:10 am #934019
haifagirl: I agree.
Purple, what I mean to say is, you don’t know how Hashem is answering your tefilos. Your sister will get married when it is her time, and you will get married in your time. Maybe Hashem is saving your tefilos for the right time! Of course you can ask for whatever you want, but Hashem may say “No” if it wouldn’t be good for you.
Maybe your sister is finishing a degree now and will be more relaxed if she meets the right one in the summer. Maybe her zivug needs to grow a little more to be worthy of her. Your tefilos will help it be good, but you can’t take her not getting engaged yet as a sign that they weren’t answered. Hashem loves every one of your tefilos, and they will all ultimately be answered for the best outcome that will enable everyone to serve Hashem in the best way for them.March 4, 2013 1:40 am at 1:40 am #934021midwesternerParticipant
Interjection: Excellent piece. Only one comment. It was 515 tefillos. Gematria of Va’eschanan.
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