March 24, 2021 4:22 pm at 4:22 pm #1960440☕️coffee addictParticipant
With the Knesset at a deadlock when are they going to stop and change the system?March 24, 2021 4:46 pm at 4:46 pm #1960444lebidik yankelParticipant
either that, or realize that the Israeli public informed the politicians four times already about the true composition of the country. Its time that politicians accept the facts and realize that the country is divided and that neither side has the clear majority and that we need to meet in the middle. We need to make it work somehow. If the politicians think they are not up for the job, they can leave. The failure is a failure on the part of the politicians, and they need to be called out on it. This is getting really foolish.March 24, 2021 10:44 pm at 10:44 pm #1960447Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipant
As we discussed before, maybe Hashem wants it this way?! Who knows what kind of damage can happen when one side gets a longer advantage. This is an Israeli version of the filibuster.
Let’s imagine possibilities:
1) Raam joins Likud government and leads Israeli delegation to Mecca ….
2) an anti-state coalition of Haredim, Arabs, Meretz – 30+ seats – joining Likud in the government. Will lead to an Arab-speaking Sephardi kibbutz in HebronMarch 24, 2021 10:44 pm at 10:44 pm #1960448ujmParticipant
It’s not a problem or a big deal. As long as it is deadlocked, regardless of how many more elections produce the same results, Netanyahu remains in power.March 24, 2021 11:14 pm at 11:14 pm #1960472GadolhadorahParticipant
Consensus requires compromise, which one side has said it will not do on matters of importance to its constituents and the other side has said it will not accept the status quo. Thus, the short term option is to continue efforts to “win”.March 24, 2021 11:16 pm at 11:16 pm #1960492TRUEBTParticipant
The system does not need to be changed. All of this can be fixed very simply.
1) Give the President of Israel the right to pardon himself for anything he has ever done before becoming President of Israel.
2) Make Bibi the President of Israel.
Hashem Malach, Hashem Melech, Hashem Yimloch L’olam Va’ed.March 25, 2021 12:37 pm at 12:37 pm #1960653
This deadlock can easily be overcome. New Hope and Likud have the same exact values. The only reason New Hope exists is because of a personal problem with Netanyahu. If Netanyahu makes the following offer to New Hope; join us and I promise to never run again in another election for the rest of my life, New Hope will get what it wants: an end to the reign of King Netanyahu. You will then have a right-wing government as follows: Likud 30 + Shas 9 + Yamina 7 + UTJ 7 + New Hope 6 + Religious Zionist 6 = 65.
Netanyahu can then “leave on his own terms” and work over the course of the next government to set up his chosen successor. New Hope would achieve its goals of ending the Netanyahu run, the people of Israel who have now voted over and over again for a right/religious government can get what they want, Lieberman will become irrelevant and disappear overnight – its a win/win/win/win.March 25, 2021 3:41 pm at 3:41 pm #1960696☕️coffee addictParticipant
If you think Netanyahu would relinquish control so easily (without finagling his way back in like this time) you’re dreamingMarch 25, 2021 4:25 pm at 4:25 pm #1960710
coffee addict; i think you are correct but it makes no sense. I love him and he has been great but there are other talented people in israel. he needs to be thinking about a way to end his legacy on a high and this would be the perfect way. plus he will rule for another 3-4 years. i don’t get it.March 26, 2021 12:29 am at 12:29 am #1960753lakewhutParticipant
Besalel no one else in Israel I more qualified to be the PM than Netanyahu.March 26, 2021 9:49 am at 9:49 am #1960802hujuParticipant
To lakewhut: Is one of Netanyahu’s qualifications the fact that he is under indictment for corruption?
And consider this: Israel’s system is the most accurate reflection of the net collective state of mind of the country, more so than any other democracy. The fact is, the Israeli public is divided, and the election results accurately reflect this.March 26, 2021 10:33 am at 10:33 am #1960808lakewhutParticipant
Huju you’re a liberal hack. Call out Democrat corruption first. No one in Israel has his experience in dealing with international affairs, especially a democrat party who loves spending US Tax dollars on Palestinian terrorists. No one had a vaccine rollout as good as Israel. He was a great bulwark against Obama who wanted pre 67 borders.March 26, 2021 3:09 pm at 3:09 pm #1960835
Netanyahu has been great but having someone serve as prime minister indefinitely is not good for the country no matter how great that person is. In a country of 7.5 million Jews there is no one else that can be prime minister. Come on. Now is the time for Bibi to plan his successor.March 26, 2021 3:11 pm at 3:11 pm #1960837Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipant
If vaccinating the whole country ahead of the world a month before an election does not add a couple of seats in Knesset … re-defines “what did you do for me lately”March 26, 2021 3:12 pm at 3:12 pm #1960838hujuParticipant
To lakewhut: I am not a hack, just a liberal. (Which do you think is worse?) I have never made apologies for corruption by Democratic politicians.
Yes, Israel had the world’s best vaccine rollout, and Bibi surely deserves some of the credit. But surely in a population of nearly 7 million Jews, there are several qualified persons who could serve as Prime Minister and are not under indictment.March 26, 2021 6:57 pm at 6:57 pm #1960861ujmParticipant
huju: Both Judaism and the secular world believe in innocence as proven guilty. Being indicted is equal to being considered innocent until proven otherwise. And enjoying all the rights of innocence.March 29, 2021 9:16 pm at 9:16 pm #1960881MadeAliyahParticipant
>With the Knesset at a deadlock when are they going to stop and change the system?<
Should they? Definitely. I have been talking about it since the second election.
Will they? Nah.
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