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Hikind says Caller’s plan to build apartments wont happen. He says its a dream and a false promise. He doesnt say why it cant happen! Whats the secret, tell the populace why it wont happen!
AZOI.IS
1. Dov has listened to this issue before, and Caller was not bringing up something unheard of. He had investigated the matter several times, and found many reasons why it would not work.
2. There is a separate question here. Should there be more housing in Boro Park? There is a strong argument that there should not be. The neighborhood is hopelessly overcrowded. Every existing home is full of occupants, and many have additional residents (let’s ignore whether these basement apartments are even legal). Parking a car near a store or even near a home is a nightmare. Bus stops are a half block each, and there are double the number of fire hydrants needed (unless you’re a canine). There is a mentality common to BP that one’s married children must live near them. I have married children living in proximity, and their frequent visits, especially when the grandchildren come, are nice and enjoyable. But this is NOT a necessity. Children should be encouraged to live wherever they will be comfortable. Sentencing them to live in cramped apartments, many of which were built in the 1800’s is abusive and cruel. If we became more willing to let go of our children at marriage, and let them live in other locations, we will accomplish much for them, for ourselves, for the neighborhood, and for the other communities where they will live and bring Yiddishkeit. I am openly encouraging my married kids to live elsewhere and to visit.
I let my kids go wherever they want and they all stay in bp
The world is a big place.
I don’t get the point of voting for someone because he has a particular idea.
1. Who is going to build now that didn’t build until now?
2. An Assemblyman has no power to change the zoning. It is the purview of the City Council not the State legislature. So regardless whether Hikind or Caller is Assemblyman, he won’t have the ability to change zoning.
3. The current residents of the neighborhood will oppose a zoning change allowing greater density housing. It’s crowded enough as is and neighbors won’t stand for more crowding and more traffic. And they will oppose any efforts at zoning changes.
And that’s why it never happened until now. And won’t in the future.
Please offer locations less than an hours drive from Boro Park, that are safe neighborhoods, where rents are affordable, that religious newlywed couples can move to.
I’m not sure if I should laugh or cry.
Maybe they can hop on a camel and put their stuff on a wagon and trek over to a different city that isn’t 2 hours away. I’m sure between skype, whatsapp, instagram, texting, group chats and facebook they will not even realize they are “out of town”.
I don’t mean that kids shouldn’t live near their parents, but if the living conditions are so bad that it is between a cramped, decrepit apartment they can’t afford or another city, it shouldn’t be as if there isn’t a choice.
Didn’t Caller used to be a big real estate lawyer? I assume he knows what he’s doing.
Is Hikind running against him? Why is he involved?
He is a real estate lawyer. And he knows what he’s doing. Which is why he hasn’t built anything until now. And he knows the State Assembly doesn’t set zoning laws.
He is running against Hikind. And came up with implausible cocamanie plan to get votes.
Who said he hasn’t explained why it is implausible? Your not hearing it doesn’t indicate he didn’t explain. Read my explanation above.
I’m surprised he can only find one issue to run against Hikind after his many years of public service. What else does he stand for? Surely he doesn’t agree with him on everything else.
Somehow, I think there’s some inside thing (to get ‘their’ guy in) that is the real reason for his support and this housing issue is just to have something to say to the public.
Maybe it can happen. But it shouldn’t.
Heard this one from someone. Why do you have to build something that it will take a while. Build on New Utrecht Ave, where there is lots of empty apartments, to make family housing. MORE REALISTIC!!!!!……
Rebyidd23 kol hakuved
Fiddle, people don’t like living under the tracks. It is noisy and your windows, high above the ground, get peered into.
Ari, the reason someone runs for office is to get there. It doesn’t have to be based on secret disdain. He wants to become a politician. That’s all.
Why would anyone want to live in BP?
Because it’s one of the 5 places a chassidish person can live currently
There are enough chassidish people that if just a small fraction of them would agree to move to any other place, that place would become a chassidish place.
Tell that to the admorim
AZOI.IS,
“Im neutral on this election at this point”
Do you expect anyone to believe that. And even if the new houses was a good idea do have any idea how long it will take for the city to get the space from the MTA,find a union contractor, and change all the necessary zoning laws. We wont be seeing a new houses for 10 years. Whats caller’s response to that???
BUT THE PARKING THOUGH!!!
Let’s say there 40 spaces on a block there would be 120 apartments lets say 90 cars on a 40 space block meaning 50 cars are left without parking so how do people park now you ask? They park up to 5 blocks away because the block where there car is parked contains more spaces
Expand Boro Park into Sunset Park and Bensonhurst.
I don’t want BP to have additional housing because I sometimes have to park there. How many illegal driveways are included in Caller’s plan?
As a born-and-bred Monseyite, I don’t even pretend to understand this.
How do people even breathe in Boro Park?
Money is pretty saturated, itself.
Lior: It’s really not- depends on your neighborhood, I guess. (If all you know of Monsey is 306/59, then yeah. But even the big chassidish neighborhoods are nowhere near BP levels of congestion, and most other neighborhoods cannot even be compared.
“How do people even breathe in Boro Park?”
quoting my Rebbe Zt”l – “we take turns”
(my rebbe – Rav Shmuel)
(Kunda, that is)
oh gosh – this thread is getting funnier by the minute. I can’t stop laughing.
In BP you can actually let older kids walk in the street, from one side of BP to another, by themselves, while the parents do other things.
that comment sends shivers down my spine tho. Maybe paying a bit more attention to kids walking alone would be a GOOD idea. Being free to leave your children unsupervised is hardly something to brag about.
Syag: You wouldn’t let your kids breath and have fun in a public park unless you were breathing down their backs? At whatever age you would let your kids alone in a park you can assume AZOI.IS allows children to walk through BP.
Syag: You wouldn’t let your kids breath and have fun in a public park unless you were breathing down their backs?
If you had a legitamate response, you wouldn’t have chosen this one.
Except that BP, with nearly 24 hours of frum folks always being around, is safer than the vast majority of parks.
Except that BP, with nearly 24 hours of frum folks always being around, is probably safer than most parks.
I guess it depends who you are trying to keep your kids safe from
v’hamayvin Yavin
Safer from kidnappers, for example.
Oh,and what age did you think AZOI.IS was referring to by “older children”?
There a 130 affordable units in bp that are mostly goiyim get them out and then you can talk about building new housing
How do you propose to get them out, bp yidd? By burning magen dovids on their front lawn? Oh, they don’t have a front lawn. Maybe on their patch of green-painted concrete.
It’s almost undoubtedly cheaper to buy them out than to change the zoning laws, buy the air rights and build homes over railroad tracks.
“Chaim, please come to the kitchen.”
“I can’t hear you Mommy, there is a cargo train passing under my bedroom.”
cute!
(coming from someone who lives near an airport)
I’m poor and I don’t want more housing in Boro Park. If you would like to keep your point true, pleas send $2,000,000 to me in the mail.
I can’t hear you azoi, there’s a train rumbling beneath my feet.
Choo choo…
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