January 11, 2011 7:54 pm at 7:54 pm #594119
???January 11, 2011 8:55 pm at 8:55 pm #726745WolfishMusingsParticipant
Why do you think we say kiddush in shul on Friday night?
The WolfJanuary 11, 2011 8:58 pm at 8:58 pm #726746mewhoParticipant
someone told me its not permissableJanuary 11, 2011 9:00 pm at 9:00 pm #726747
I have a relative in that matzav.I have never judged it since.January 11, 2011 9:00 pm at 9:00 pm #726748☕ DaasYochid ☕Participant
Were they homeless or travelers?January 11, 2011 9:06 pm at 9:06 pm #726749WolfishMusingsParticipant
Well, to be fair, it’s not a matter of real homelessness, as in the permanent sense, but more along the lines of travels who are in town for Shabbos and have nowhere else to go (i.e. the temporary homeless).
I agree that you shouldn’t have people living in a shul full-time. Except in emergency situations, a shul should not be a homeless shelter.
OP, do you know of a place where this is occurring?
The WolfJanuary 11, 2011 9:18 pm at 9:18 pm #726752tzippiMember
Whocares, can you elaborate? When I grew up our shul had an elderly shamash who was given the job long, long ago, by friends who wanted to help him, long sad story; he lived in the attic.January 11, 2011 9:24 pm at 9:24 pm #726753
Shomrei Shabbos,for one.January 11, 2011 9:24 pm at 9:24 pm #726754bein_hasdorimParticipant
where else should they live? They’re homeless!
Is anyone who has a problem with this offering them to come
home with them? I just feel those who dont keep themselves clean
and cause a stench in shul, that is a problem.
Maybe they should take a dollar from collecting & invest into using the local mikvas soap & showers.January 11, 2011 9:31 pm at 9:31 pm #726755
How about those who are nebach unable to change their attire more than once a month, and it is difficult (or not permissible)to daven or learn in their 4 amos?January 11, 2011 9:35 pm at 9:35 pm #726756
The fellow I know is very clean.January 11, 2011 9:37 pm at 9:37 pm #726757
Eclipse: I didn’t want to mention any names of shuls. But you geussed what I meant. They recently renovataed a new wing to the shelter on the top floor.
Did anyone see what goes on there thoughout the night till in middle of the day??January 11, 2011 11:43 pm at 11:43 pm #726758amichaiParticipant
are there really people living in shuls? I’m just surprised. so sad.January 12, 2011 12:47 am at 12:47 am #726759
actually, Shomer shabbos has a homeless WOMAN sleeping at the top of the stair case at the third floorJanuary 12, 2011 1:27 am at 1:27 am #726760
I was never in there in my life.But I know that at least when he was there,he wasn’t on a park bench.
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