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February 14, 2013 9:23 pm at 9:23 pm #608215snowbunny3318Member
Did anyone else hear about the horse meat scandal in Europe. I would say thank G-d we keep Kosher, but even meals that were supposed to be halal for muslims were affected by this as well. I hope that none of the kosher meats were affected by this! What do you think of it?
February 14, 2013 9:39 pm at 9:39 pm #930270Y.W. EditorKeymasterOnce you mentioned it, here is the latest from the AP wire on this story:
Horsemeat: French Company Blamed, UK Arrests
Police in Wales, meanwhile, announced the arrests Thursday of three men on suspicion of fraud at two meat plants inspected earlier this week by the U.K.’s Food Standards Agency.
Europol, the European Union police agency, is coordinating a broad continent-wide fraud investigation amid allegations of an international criminal conspiracy to substitute horse for more expensive beef.
In Paris, Benoit Hamon, the government’s consumer affairs minister, said it appeared that in the most prominent case fraudulent meat sales had been going on for several months, and reached across 13 countries and 28 companies. He did not name the countries or companies.
He said there was plenty of blame to go around, but most of it rested with Spanghero, a wholesaler based in southern France.
Officials at Spanghero denied knowingly buying and reselling horsemeat but French authorities immediately suspended their trading activities.
Hamon said Spanghero was one company in a chain that started with two Romanian slaughterhouses that says they clearly labeled their meat as horse.
The meat was then bought by a Cyprus-registered trader and sent to a warehouse in the Netherlands.
Spanghero bought the meat from the trader, then resold it to the French frozen food processor Comigel. The resulting food was marketed under the Sweden-based Findus brand as lasagna and other products as containing ground beef.
Hamon said Spanghero was well aware that the meat was mislabeled when it sold it to Comigel.
“Spanghero knew,” Hamon said. “One thing that should have attracted Spanghero’s attention? The price.”
Hamon said the meat from Romania cost far below the market rate for beef.
A representative for Spanghero said company officials have been interrogated by authorities, who have raided Spanghero headquarters several times in recent days, but no one has been arrested.
The representative insisted the company acted “in good faith” and that it never knew the meat it bought and sold was horsemeat. The representative said he was not authorized to be publicly named according to his contract with Spanghero.
He wouldn’t comment on French authorities’ insistence that Spanghero should have recognized the meat as horse by its price, smell and color.
Food processor Comigel was not blameless either, Hamon said, declaring that the paperwork from Spanghero had significant irregularities, including a failure to specify country of origin.
“And once the meat was defrosted, we can ask ourselves why Comigel didn’t notice that the color and odor was not that of beef?” Hamon said.
Sorin Minea, the chief of Romalimenta, the Romanian food industry association, urged tough sanctions for the French companies. “Romania, small and ugly as it, respected all European legislation. In the U.K., legislation was not respected,” he said. “I am sad that first we were accused and then there was an inquiry. We feel we are not part of the European family.”
Britain’s food regulator, meanwhile, said Thursday that six horse carcasses that tested positive for an equine painkiller may have entered the human food chain in France and that horsemeat tainted with the medicine may have been sold to consumers “for some time.”
The U.K. Food Standards Agency said eight out of 206 horses it checked had tested positive for phenylbutazone, commonly known as bute. The drug is banned for human use in countries including Britain and the U.S.
The scandal has also raised the uncomfortable idea that Europeans may unwittingly have been consuming racehorses, which are often treated with bute.
Britain’s Aintree race track said a slaughterhouse in northern England shut down this week by government investigators had a contract to dispose of fatally injured racehorses. The racecourse said it was “as confident as we possibly can be” that none of the meat had entered the human food chain.
Despite the ban on bute for humans, Britain’s chief medical officer, Sally Davies, said that horsemeat containing the drug “presents a very low risk to human health.”
Davies said the drug was once prescribed to patients with severe arthritis, and while it sometimes produced serious side effects including the blood disorder aplastic anemia, it was “extremely unlikely” that anyone eating horsemeat would experience them.
“If you ate 100-percent horse burgers of 250 grams (8.8 ounces), you would have to eat, in one day, more than 500 or 600 to get to a human dose,” she said. “It would really be difficult to get up to a human dose.”
In other, separate developments in the multi-tentacled horsemeat scandal Thursday:
February 14, 2013 9:43 pm at 9:43 pm #930271snowbunny3318MemberI honestly can’t even remember how I found out about this scandal online, but it is quite intriguing, and I feel bad for everyone who is affected.
February 14, 2013 9:49 pm at 9:49 pm #930272akupermaParticipantDoes anyone DNA test kosher meat to make sure its from the animal it says it is. While DNA won’t catch improper schecting, it will catch switching critters.
February 14, 2013 11:28 pm at 11:28 pm #930273snowbunny3318MemberThat sounds like a good idea to add- at least in Europe. The only thing is that kosher meat is already expensive enough as it is…
February 15, 2013 12:37 am at 12:37 am #930274ari-freeParticipantIt’s funny that they have no problem eating pork and shrimp but get all excited when it’s a horse.
February 15, 2013 3:29 am at 3:29 am #930275yehudayonaParticipantari-free, even hippophages have a beef if their beef is horsemeat. The kinds of meat that people eat depends on the culture. Brits don’t eat horse, but French do. Substituting cheaper meat is cheating, pure and simple.
February 15, 2013 3:51 am at 3:51 am #930276yaakov doeParticipantRemember the chicken inm Monsey a few years ago? Sadly, anything’s possible.
The French eat horse, the Chinese eat dogs, for the Brits both are not edible.
February 15, 2013 3:59 am at 3:59 am #930277CuriosityParticipantYaakov doe – If nobody realized anything was off until they DNA tested it, that means it was obviously not noticeable in those processed products. It’s the principle of the matter that bothers people; kind of like not eating dogs, rats, and cats – though in some Asian countries they do. Yehudayona is right: If you can’t notice the difference then it’s all psychological, and it’s very interesting that people who eat shellfish, pork, and rabbit are bothered when it comes to horses.
February 15, 2013 7:12 am at 7:12 am #930278MammeleParticipantYou guys are neglecting the health issue mentioned. Once someone cheats with one thing, i.e. the type of meat, it is likely that they cheated some more and these horses were fed/medicated with stuff not allowed if raised for human consumption.
Also, some people may have not liked the meat so much and maybe even didn’t buy it again, but it would take a greater expert or someone familiar with horse meat to realize they’ve been conned.
February 16, 2013 7:41 pm at 7:41 pm #930279snowbunny3318MemberAlso, people probably got sick and some may have chas veshalom, already died from eating the horse meat.
February 17, 2013 3:22 am at 3:22 am #930280yehudayonaParticipantsnowbunny, are you making that up? The worst I’ve read is that race horses are commonly treated with a drug that’s not safe for human consumption, so it’s possible that people consuming horse meat are ingesting unsafe drugs. That’s not to say that they’ll get die or even get sick. Presumably, it takes continued ingestion of that drug to cause harm.
February 17, 2013 8:31 am at 8:31 am #930281snowbunny3318MemberIt is an assumption that it could happen. I never meant to say that it actually happened. There is always a possibility.
February 17, 2013 1:57 pm at 1:57 pm #930282ChortkovParticipantApparently, they found in Kosher shops traces of horseradish in the latest batch of Chrane!
February 17, 2013 2:59 pm at 2:59 pm #930283snowbunny3318Memberhaha
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