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    WIY
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    The purpose of yissurin (suffering) is to teach us the great principle of Daas (knowledge of Hashem), and when people respond properly, they are going to be spared.

    The Gemara (Berachos 5a) states: “Somebody who is busy studying Torah, yissurin go away from him.” The more a person teaches himself Daas — meaning he is osek baTorah (labors in Torah study) — yissurin go away from him. He has gained the benefit in other ways. (Rav Avigdor Miller on Emunah and Bitachon)

    From Simcha Minute by Rabbi Miller daily email.

    #988180
    Shopping613 🌠
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    How do you respond? What is properly….Ive been told that its crying out to HaShem and growing clorlser to him and his mitzvos

    #988181
    WIY
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    Shopping613

    There are different ways of getting close to Hashem. You are correct that Tefillah is extremely powerful as well.

    #988182
    scroller
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    WIY but the later part of the gemara specifically says that Torah is only given through suffering and Hashem brings suffering upon those He loves.

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    See also Brachos 28 a: ??? ??? ???? ????? ?? ???

    #988183
    Redleg
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    WIY, are you speaking theoretically or about actual suffering? Practically, no one can avoid all suffering. As an Engineer and a Jew, my response to suffering is to fix what I can, suck it up and suffer what I cannot, and to be mevoreich on the ra as I am mevoreich on the tov.

    #988184
    Shopping613 🌠
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    I meant that is called winning your battles, no? Lime when yiu cant do anything about ur situation

    #988185
    justsayin
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    Man was born to toil. Life isn’t meant to be easy. Knowing what we are working towards, what our goal is, and seeing the positive makes it easier to accept. We are part of a plan. Nothing comes for nothing. For as long as we live, we will not know why certain things happen to us. If we don’t ask too many questions we won’t have to be called up for the answers. That is what I say.

    #988186
    RisingSun613
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    teshuvah u’tefillah u’tzedaka maavirin es ro’ah hagezairah!

    #988187
    Torah613Torah
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    I heard that bad dreams are sent to tzaddikim in the place of real yissurim.

    #988188
    oomis
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    One cannot avoid suffering. Our greatest Tzaddikim suffered (think of the Aseres Harugei Malchus). HOW we react to our suffering is what defines us. I know two women who both lost their first babies, R”L, but went on to have other children. One is very bitter for the last 30 plus years and takes it out on everyone around her. The other has dedicated her life to bringing happiness to others.

    We suffer in life, we have joy in life (hopefully we recognize the joy). But it is up to us to deal with it in the best way we can. And sometimes we need help, in addition to davening and saying Tehillim and doing all the right things.

    #988189
    scroller
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    If you learn to appreciate “suffering” and grow from “suffering” and see “suffering” as a coming from Hashem in conjunction with staying away from aveiros you will avoid suffering.

    As is says in brachos 63a: Anyone who makes Hashem a partner in his suffering (i.e. accepts that his suffering is from Hashem and is for his own good) doubles his livelihood.

    “?”? ???? ?? ????? ???? ??? ????? ???? ?? ????? ?? ???? ????? ?????? ?? ?????? ????? ???? ??? ????? ???? ?????? ??”

    #988190
    cherrybim
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    How can a person avoid suffering? Easy; you don’t live forever.

    #988191
    notasheep
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    Suffering is all in the mind. A person can have tremendous tragedies happen to them and be happy and get on with life. A person can also feel that every little thing that goes wrong is a major disaster and suffer terribly.

    I recently went through a loss – it was painful and distressing and it stills hurts, but I am not suffering because I am not going to let it make me depressed. I am not quite myself yet and won’t be for some time most probably but I will not let my husband and children or my class in school be affected by what I feel.

    #988192
    Trust 789
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    Very often suffering comes from self defeating behaviors, often without the person is realizing. If this is the case, it’s important to get to the bottom of it, either through therapy, or speaking to a wise person who can figure things out together with you. Sometimes self help books or self help seminars can help.

    #988193
    Shopping613 🌠
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    Well were supposed to suffer in this life, and if you go through tonz of stuff and it dosent affect you at least in the inside, like at least!!! Like other people dont know but inside you are suffering, if you arent going thtough that you either are a robot or were not born with feelings. Hashem gave us feelings not to shut up but to tell ourselves its OK to feel wtvr, but if it takes over our life thats not OK.

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