January 26, 2024 7:35 am at 7:35 am #2256094BaltimoreMavenParticipant
Don’t the US and England and EU countries all have an embargo on anyone doing business with Iran? Yet Turkey is still meeting with Iran and signing cooperation agreementsJanuary 26, 2024 3:25 pm at 3:25 pm #2256470akupermaParticipant
Turkey wasn’t allowed to join the EU, and while it was suggested that it become an American or British mandate after World War I, Turkey remained independent and is not bound by what the US and UK want to do. NATO doesn’t really involve Iran as it is a different region.January 28, 2024 5:11 pm at 5:11 pm #2256774BaltimoreMavenParticipant
NATO is constantly talking about Iran, as it IS a threat to NATO countries and NATO allies. As one example:
NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg expressly named Iran and the Lebanon-based group Hezbollah as potentially playing a role in the attacks, despite the Iranian authorities’ denial of responsibility.
“There is always risk that nations and/or organizations hostile to Israel will take try to take advantage. And that includes, for instance, organizations like Hezbollah or [a] country like Iran,” he said in a press conference. “So this is a message to countries and organizations hostile to Israel that they should not try to utilize the situation.”January 29, 2024 11:18 pm at 11:18 pm #2257214modernParticipant
Türkiye (that is the new spelling) is all in on the side of Ukraine in its war with Russia and that causes far more damage to Iran than any benefit Iran gets from some business with its neighbor. The drones that Türkiye supplies to Ukraine have caused costly damage to Russia and that drains resources that Russia could be sending to Iran. Russia has funded Iran to the tune of over sixty billion in oil and gas deals in the past two years and only Ukraine is preventing even more such deals. It helps of course that the drone factory is owned by Erdogan’s son in law. That does prove that not all corrupt Presidential sons in law are incompetent grifters. And Türkiye has agreed to let Finland and Sweden into NATO, a catastrophic defeat for Putin and his Iranian buddies. I never thought that I would live to see it.
That said, the overwhelming evidence is that Iran did NOT instigate the October 7th attacks. Because of the attacks, seven billion dollars in oil revenues remain embargoed. Hamas is funded by Iran but is not a direct proxy like Hezbollah or the Houthis.January 31, 2024 5:52 pm at 5:52 pm #2257831jdf007Participant
Biden relaxed enforcement of sanctions against Iran. Trade skyrocketed leading up to October. After October, Biden pondered (I don’t recall exactly) allowing oil sales from Iran for a short period.Or am I thinking of Venezula were it all goes to Iran anyway?
WSJ has a list of just how many 10’s of billions Iran gained this year.
You say there are sanctions. The media probably does too. But if someone like Trump lists this, and quotes the WSJ as he always does, the media and the left will claim he’s wrong and insane, and on and on we go,January 31, 2024 10:24 pm at 10:24 pm #2257850
Turkey is a sovereign nation. NATO membership doesn’t surrender national sovereignty.January 31, 2024 10:24 pm at 10:24 pm #2257851
akyperma: Turkey still officially has candidate status for the European Union. Officially they are slated to “eventually” become an EU member.January 31, 2024 10:44 pm at 10:44 pm #2257870jdf007Participant
modern: It is spelled Turkey. Why is it spelled Turkey? Because that is how we spell it. Turkey has the distinction of being the only nation on earth that wants the ability to dictate to other nations how its name is spelled. Not even China, Russia, or the Estados Unidos has this ability. It’s a surprising fact I did not know about until Turkey tried to do this. Along with illegally occupying parts of Syria, genocide against the Kurds and others, and using European and American courts to sue people they do not like. Their spelling is not a request I feel obligated to comply with.February 2, 2024 4:28 am at 4:28 am #2258186
jdf007: Ukraine decided just two years ago that the spelling of Kiev henceforth must be spelled as Kyiv.
In the 1900s Persia told the world to start calling it Iran. (They didn’t change the name of their country.)
There are more examples as well.
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