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I want to ask all the Israeli posters if they enjoyed their 8 day pesach when they usually only have 7! For they, like us, could not under normal circumstances have chometz until after shabbos as they cannot buy the chometz back from the goy on shabbos. (unless they did some shtick like – I dunno if this would work – if a Jew lights the oven on last day yomtov and gets a goy to make a dough in the oven on shabbos for himself but lets the Jew take some).
Also this shabbos in Israel they leined parshas shmini. When do we catch them up? We have 3 double sidras coming up,
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We catch up BeHar BeChukosai
However in leap years such as 2016, 2019, 2022 we don’t catch all the way until Mattos Massei, as happenned in 1978, 1992, 1995, so that Bemidbar is read on Erev Shovu’os rather than Nosso. [In Israel, it is beyond control of the calendar to take care of this issue in such years]
Where can you find an online 100 year Jewish calendar?
Neither I nor my friends had an eight day Pesach. On Shabbat we ate kitniyot. According to some opinions we could have ate chametz if there were Goyim to give it to us but we did not go that far.
As far as chometz – that certainly is hard to do, as all the people still had Pesachdik keilim out, so that would be a problem. But, Israelis had no issue of cooking rice or other kitniyos on Friday to eat on Shabbos on those same Pesach keilim. Personally, I did not – just still had so much meat and other things to finish, but know of many who did.
“if a Jew lights the oven on last day yomtov and gets a goy to make a dough in the oven on shabbos for himself but lets the Jew take some”
You forgot about challoh. Though for really small amounts it wouldn’t be an issue, but then again, it wouldn’t be practical…
there was a question if the Israelis who are spending Pessach in Chu”l in this case can make their own Minyan on this past Shabbos so that they can lain their parsha not 8th day of Pessach.
Rav Zalman Auerbach ZT”L ruled no, because it would be a Zilzul of Yom Tov Sheni.
Yet Tourists in Israel have their own Minyanim on this past SHabbos.
Rav Shlomo Zalman also opposed Yom Tov Sheni minyanim in EY but the Chutznikim in Kol Tora did it anyway.
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My brother was in Israel once during this period, and was leaving during it.
He had already caught up, since the yeshiva he was in caught up the first week in their chutz minyan.
So, the last week he was there, he did this:
He went to a 900 minyan and davened shachris.
Then, he went upstairs to the 800 minyan after shmone esrei.
And he heard leining the next week.
Well, I’m going to be in the States for 2 weeks. So, I’m going to hear Shmini again this Shabbos in Chicago, but I’ll miss Acharei Mos-Kedoshim altogether.
What is a 900 minyan and how much is it per minute?
We enjoyed our humous on Shabbat, and beans in the cholent.
Our neighbor took the “pesach roll” mix and made a schlissel “challah” from it. We even took pictures.
How’d you take pictures on Shabbos?
The pictures were from Thursday afternoon.
Hello99: Oh no, youre gonna be in Chicago and we wont know who you are! How can we shower you with our trademark warmth and kindness? Care to meet us all at starbucks? : )
Having Egg Matzos this past Shabbos should not have been a problem for Israelis, since they can be owned during Pesach.
Not sure how that is “keeping” pesach. As the mah nistana says – chometz umatza on any other night. If I had pesach food on Jyly 15th, did I keep Pesach? Of course not.
Pesach is set by the dates in the Torah and had ended by Shabbos in Israel.
When I had a baby who needed formula many years ago, my rov told me to prepare anything form kitniyos in a special pot because back in those days all the formulas were only l’ochlei kitnyos. I’m wondering how you can prepare kitniyos in pesachdig keilim.
I would guess that the rabbonim who you asked did not want you to accidentally mix the kitniyos up and those that the Israelis asked were not worried by any such matter. As it is in Israel, the non-ochlei kitniyos folks are very careful about hasgachos and hyper-sensitive as a lot, if not most products are kasher l’fesach lochlei kitniyos. Being that they are hyper sensitive. the chances of an error being made is probably small.
But ask your own local rov. As I had said, we had way too much other food than to focus on rice or other kitniyos.
Frumisrael: There are Rishonim against that idea (sort of). It’s not Bal Tosif if I refuse to eat Chametz on July 15th. It is Bal Tosif if I refuse on Motza’ei Pesach.
Syag: I’ll be the bearded guy, keep an eye out for me
Years ago a friend of mine was engaged to a Sephardi. Since we were both moving to EY, it was likely I would eat in her home sometimes. We asked our Rav, and we were told she would have to keep separate non-kitniyos keilim if I were to eat there on Pesach.
That’s why people don’t mish on Pesach.
frumisrael, it’s not likely that I was going to mix up the formula/cereal that I was planning on feeding my infant with anything else planned for the rest of us. I don’t understand your point.
I had a shaila (theoretical) that I was discussing with some people on Acharon Shel Pesach:
What do Sefardim in EY do for washing on the Shabbos immediately following Pesach like this year? They can’t have any Challah, because they can’t buy their Chometz back yet, and they make mezonos on Matzah during the year? So do they have to eat a shiur of 8 k’zeisim of Matzah for each meal? Or is it considered b’dieved that they just make Hamoitzi on Matzah anyway?
Anyone have any first hand experience?
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