February 7, 2017 7:33 pm at 7:33 pm #619202takahmamashParticipant
It seems as if everyone and his brother-in-law is referred to as “HaGaon.” How many Gaonim are there in the world today?February 7, 2017 7:40 pm at 7:40 pm #1215689MenoParticipant
My brother-in-law is a Gaon.
Not me thoughFebruary 7, 2017 7:55 pm at 7:55 pm #1215690iacisrmmaParticipant
There is no way to quantify this.February 7, 2017 8:27 pm at 8:27 pm #1215691MParticipant
There are 36 hidden tzaddikim in the world. You can’t be a real tzaddik if you’re not also really a gaon, so I’d say there are at least 36 gaonim. But maybe there are also some geonim that are not big tzaddikim, so there might be many more than 36 geonim.February 7, 2017 8:27 pm at 8:27 pm #1215692assurnetParticipant
A rav I’m close to told me that back in Europe the bare minimum for being called a gaon was to know all of shas rashi/tosfos baal peh.
The term seems to pretty loosely be thrown around today which tends to cheapen it. I’ve seen a chaver knesset who has been referred to as “harav ######## shlita” Now this individual may very well have some sort of smicha and I’m sure he learns when he has the chance but the fact of the matter is what capacity does he function at day to day, or as he ever functioned at to really fill the description of a rav? I’m personally unaware of it (thought could be I’m just ignorant of his full situation) but for me it seems unfair compared to those who are in actual rabbanusFebruary 7, 2017 8:39 pm at 8:39 pm #1215693Lilmod UlelamaidParticipant
“You can’t be a real tzaddik if you’re not also really a gaon”
I’m not sure about that. I think the Chassidim may have a different perspective.February 7, 2017 8:40 pm at 8:40 pm #1215694Lilmod UlelamaidParticipant
Also, can’t the 36 hidden tzaddikim be ladies? A lady definitely doesn’t need to be a Gaon in order to be a tzadeikes.February 7, 2017 8:44 pm at 8:44 pm #1215695JosephParticipant
Less than Maran.February 7, 2017 10:20 pm at 10:20 pm #1215696mik5Participant
Maran HaGaon HaRav Chaim Kanievsky shlit”a, the son of Maran HaGaon HaRav Y.Y. Kanievsky, the Steipler Gaon
Maran HaGaon HaRav Shteinman, he should have a refuah shleima
Maran HaGaon HaRav Karelitz
Maran HaGaon HaRav Edelstein
Maran HaGaon HaRav ShternbuchFebruary 7, 2017 11:00 pm at 11:00 pm #1215697iacisrmmaParticipant
Mik5: are you sure they are the only ones? Better not to list any than only a partial list.February 8, 2017 2:42 am at 2:42 am #1215698theprof1Participant
The term Gaon is being used very loosely as a title. The minimum knowledge should be all Shas with all Rashi, Tosefos, Maharsho. All Chumash with Rashi ans Ramban. All Rambam, all Tur and all Shulchan Orech. Thoroughly.February 8, 2017 3:03 am at 3:03 am #1215699hujuParticipant
I was going to say that there are too many gaonim, but then I realized that since Hashem decides who is a gaon, the number must be exactly right.February 8, 2017 7:21 am at 7:21 am #1215701WinnieThePoohParticipant
Every regular person nowadays is referred to as Rav, semicha or not. Those who really have semicha have to be given a different title- hence the Gaon Harav. The real big rabbanim/gedolei hador have to be given an even greater title then- Maran Hagaon Harav.February 8, 2017 3:33 pm at 3:33 pm #1215702MenoParticipant
My brother-in-law is a Rav.
Not me though.February 8, 2017 6:19 pm at 6:19 pm #1215703Avi KParticipant
There are those who say “hu rav im kulam”.February 9, 2017 7:39 pm at 7:39 pm #1215704tiawdParticipant
I once heard that if someone is called Harav Hagaon, all it tells you is that he’s male.February 10, 2017 6:03 am at 6:03 am #1215705Avi KParticipant
Tiawd, the leitzanei hador say that a Gaon is someone who never heard of Rashi or Tosafot.February 12, 2017 7:49 pm at 7:49 pm #1215706yungermanSParticipant
learn your jewish history
the order was
ta’naim (compiled mishna)
amoraim (compiled gemara)
Acharonim (the generation we are still currently in)
the generation of Geolim ended many hundreds of years ago
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