September 20, 2010 7:44 pm at 7:44 pm #697880chesednameParticipant
One of the main reasons for selling kibbudim, is NOT TO HAVE FIGHTS IN SHUL.
say what you want, if it’s given free every year and there is only one psichi neila, it’s only a question of time that someone starts screaming “when will it be my turn”?
there was even a fight a few years ago in prison, someone wanted a kibud and didn’t get it etc..
on a side note, the rich do deserve the kibbud, as we discussed many times tuition is partially subsidized by the wealthy, they are also the big supporters of tomchei shabbos, hatzoloh etc services the ppl that don’t have money use, the least they can do is say let the wealthy get the kibbud!!! hakaros hatov is just as important as the kibbud in question!September 21, 2010 11:00 pm at 11:00 pm #697881hello99Participant
A simple compromise followed in many shuls is to sell SOME kibudim and distribute others at the discretion of the Rav/gabbai/board.September 22, 2010 2:04 am at 2:04 am #697882goody613Member
i think selling for dafim is the best idea.but there are people that are learinn that much anyways.no one is giving thousands of dollars to shul for no reasonSeptember 22, 2010 11:17 pm at 11:17 pm #697883chofetzchaimMember
Just to clarify, I davened at the “alumni minyan” in our yeshiva, not the main yeshiva minyan. There was one person (not the main gabbai) who was in charge of giving out all of the psicha’s. Before shmona esrei of Neila he asked the gabbai to do psicha. The gabbai then turned to me and asked me to do it. I assume this was because he realized that he probably wouldn’t be done with his own silent shmona esrei.
apahutayid, did we daven at the same minyan?September 23, 2010 9:39 pm at 9:39 pm #697884SRPsychMember
Apashutayid: I believe there are specific segulot attached to Maftir Yonah and to Pticha D’Neila, but I can’t quote sources (other than my father!). Peticha D’Neila is supposed to be segula for easy childbirth. And Maftir Yonah for parnassah.
While I agree that in an ideal world these Kibbudim should be handed out by merit, in a world where the Rabbi must get paid, as must the bank, the youth director and the cleaner, to name but a few – the potential revenue can’t simply be dismissed. What if it is a question of selling these few kibbudim, or raising the price of membership overall? I think the tircha d’tzibur involved in the latter would dictate that the Kibbudim be sold to those that can afford to shoulder that financial responsibility. Every institution will always have those that contribute more financially and those that contribute more in other ways. Both should be respected – and, yes, honored.
What is very nice – and I’ve seen this numerous times – is when a ‘gvir’ buys the aliya or p’ticha – and then gives it to someone worthy who couldn’t have afforded it…September 26, 2010 12:59 am at 12:59 am #697885leftbrooklynParticipant
My shul didnt sell, and the gabai was supposed to get it, but I privately offered 500 shekel (for the shul) for it and he gave it to me.
Anyone know the segula and where does it say it?September 26, 2010 1:16 am at 1:16 am #697886Sister BearMember
Last year Psicha Neila went for $3,200 but this year for less than $800.
In my shul they auction off all the aliyos on Yom Tov but I just heard that except for Psicha Neila, most people buy aliyos for someone else.September 26, 2010 4:30 pm at 4:30 pm #697887no it allMember
MY SHUL IN MONSEY IT WENT FOR 2,500 I GUESS NOT SO BAD ONCE U ARE ALREADY SELLINGSeptember 26, 2010 5:04 pm at 5:04 pm #697888justsmile613Participant
$2,000 in my shul
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