How Will The New Minimum Wage Laws Affect “Cleaning Help”

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    momx3BH
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    Does anyone know if the minimum wage laws affect how we pay our cleaning help????

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    #1654466

    Neville ChaimBerlin
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    Obviously it affects it. Why would you think it wouldn’t?

    #1654475

    Meno
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    Maybe there’s an exception for cleaning help. Ya know, just because.

    #1654482

    akuperma
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    If the helper is your spouse or child or younger sibling, it will have no impact. One doesn’t customarily pay family members for helping. Paying a family member to induce them to help around the house does not require paying taxes or paying the minimum wage and if you start charging the kid for room and board, that also is not a taxable event).

    If you hire a non-family member, you have to pay the minimum wage including various employment taxes based on the wages you pay. Failure to do so can get you in big trouble (serious fines, paying back taxes with interest, and even jail).

    #1654550

    takahmamash
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    The simple solution is to do it yourself. I mean, seriously, people can’t manage to clean a house once a week?

    #1655216

    👑RebYidd23
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    takahmamash, some people work full time.

    #1655372

    Amil Zola
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    The minimum wage increase impacts those who are paying their domestic help on the books. As to needing domestic help, if you are a family with two working parents and many children it just makes sense to hire domestic help.

    #1655881

    CTLAWYER
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    Must be nice to live in an area where cleaning help is only $15 per hour. In our area the going rate is $30 per hour with a three hour minimum visit. Homeowner supplies all cleaning supplies and equipment

    #1655889

    Neville ChaimBerlin
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    takahmamash: Don’t bother trying. I’ve tried too, and you’ll always get the same response. These rich people are so entitled that the assertion of performing basic life duties offends them and makes us the bad guys.

    #1655906

    👑RebYidd23
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    If the people hiring cleaning help were rich, they would hire people who work for a fair wage.

    #1655919

    CTLAWYER
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    Why would performing basic life duties be offensive?
    I mow the lawn, shovel snow, do painting and home repairs.

    That said, Mrs. CTL is not well enough to do housework. She has been in ICU since Friday and has had 10 surgeries in the past year.
    Until three years ago and the onset of ill health she cleaned our house.
    I do the kUndry and cook

    #1655920

    Lucy
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    NCB: u for real?

    #1655955

    WinnieThePooh
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    Taka, no some people either do not have the time or the physical ability.
    I wish I could afford real cleaning help. Right now all I have is someone coming for 1h a week to do the really heavy work. The rest I do myself, and usually can’t move much by the time I am finished.

    #1655968

    a mamin
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    I CTL lawyer; refuah sheleima to your wife!!

    #1655969

    a mamin
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    The law of $15 minimum wage is if you employ 10 workers or more!

    #1655976

    takahmamash
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    CTLawyer: wishing you and your wife the best, hoping that she is able to come home soon and have a complete recovery.

    #1655983

    WinnieThePooh
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    I have always wondered about this- maybe someone in the CR knows: why is a (theoretical) cleaner who comes to my house once a week for 3-4h considered my employee while a plumber or handyman who comes to work in my home is an independent worker who offers a service and charges a fee? If it is the fact that one is regular and one only once in a while, then what about those who have someone like a personal trainer or massage therapist who make home visits and come on a regular basis? Why can companies have employees work on 1099s or as contract workers by the hour to avoid paying benefits, but a householder can’t do that for a cleaner?

    #1656050

    CTLAWYER
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    Winnie,
    The cleaner is an employee because you set the terms and conditions of employment and give direction.
    You tell the cleaner that you will work Wednesdays from 9-1. Y, clean bedrooms, bathroom, kitchen. On alternate weeks clean inside of refrigerator or oven, etc. You supply the cleaning products you want used.

    The plumber responds to your call about the leaking toilet and says I can be there on Tuesday between 11 and 4. he brings his own tools and supplies.

    #1656086

    Milhouse
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    I still tell the plumber what needs to be fixed.

    Setting an appointment time is the same with the plumber as with the cleaner; neither of us can impose a time on the other, we have to negotiate a time that suits both of us. If I tell the cleaner to come Wednesdays from 9-1, and she’s busy then, I can’t make her come. And if the plumber tells me she’s available Tuesday between 11 and 4 and it doesn’t work for me, she can’t make me accept it. In both cases they tell me when they’re available, I tell them when I’m available, and we either find something that works for both or I look for someone else.

    And what about the personal trainer, massage therapist, piano teacher, gardener, etc? The relationship is the same with all of them. So why is the cleaner different?

    #1656088

    👑RebYidd23
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    CTLAWYER, those are not always true. Some cleaners bring their own supplies, and the direction given is not always more detailed than that given to the plumber.

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