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    Lilmod Ulelamaid
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    Is my father still alive? (Just chazering this week’s Parsha 🙂 )

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    Lightbrite
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    Omgosh. The title freaked me out a bit. Clever.

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    Lilmod Ulelamaid
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    Glad someone finally reacted 🙂

    It’s a song by the way, on the Parsha. 613 Torah Avenue.

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    jakob
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    Can you get me some food and coffee from the coffeeroom king Joseph?

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    Lilmod Ulelamaid
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    This song has been running through my head all week.

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    WinnieThePooh
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    And this one thru mine…

    Od Yosef Chai, V’hu melech b’mitzraim

    Yesh lo 2 yeladim, Menashe V’Efraim

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    Lightbrite
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    I am a direct decedent of Yosef ha Tzaddik.

    Thus I am protected from ayin hara.

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    Lilmod Ulelamaid
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    How do you know, LB?

    The truth is that we most probably all are if you count matrilineal descent. Is that what you meant?

    If you are only counting patrilineal descent, then most of us can’t be from Yosef, since most of us are from Yehuda, Binyamin, or Levi.

    Unless you’re from the 10 tribes like my nephew is. But I don’t know which tribe he is from.

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    Lightbrite
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    I listened to a shiur this evening that said to say that to protect oneself eternally from ayin hara.

    Because Yosef did not covet, his reward was eternal protection from the ayin hara, which extended to all of his descendants.

    How can I say that I am a direct descendant of Yosef ha Tzaddik? Is that not a lie?

    Well all can say this, for b’nei Yisrael is not only the children of Yaakov but also known as the children of Yosef.

    Thus you can honestly [and should, according to this teacher on Torah Anytime] say that you are a descendant of Yosef ha Tzaddik. It’s in the Gemara. The ayin hara won’t be able to harm you B”H.

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    WinnieThePooh
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    “Well all can say this, for b’nei Yisrael is not only the children of Yaakov but also known as the children of Yosef. “

    Really, where is this known?

    Yosef’s descendants are lost among the 10 tribes exiled by Sanherev prior to the destruction of the first Temple.

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    Lightbrite
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    From the Jewish Press:

    [inserting his name], son of

    But this Gemara seems to be talking about a remedy for all Jews entering a city, many of whom obviously do not descend from Joseph!

    Some argue that, indeed, the suggested remedy is effective only for those who turn out to be descendants of Joseph.

    Rashi and Metzudat David explain that since Joseph sustained his brothers and their families in Egypt, they are referred to by his name.”

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