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So, basically, over the past few months, everywhere I have turned, they want me to volunteer for them instead of me getting paid. I am 19 and I need at the very least, money to subsidize my daily expenses. How come people don’t understand that and why can’t they be upfront about it? Yeah, I am angry, and it was multiple Jewish organizations that have done this to me. If you ask me to come in for a job interview, and say you hire me, then I expect to get paid. What do you think? Has this ever happened to you? Its such a chillul Hashem, and my mom (who isn’t religious at this point in her life) is so angry and thinks everyone is brainwashing me into being such a chessed girl…
Sounds pretty rough. Hatzlacha finding a job.
hint: this is the new normal. if you don’t mind me asking, what is your level of education? what kind of position are you seeking?
What type of skills do you have?
You have every right to get paid for the work you do! if you want to take an unpaid internship somewhere that is fine, but it should be your choice and it should be with the expectation that you will get some skills of value out of it.
Expecting to get paid on time is not unreasonable. (and paying people on time is required by the Torah!)
At the college (and even sometimes at the post-college) level, the bulk of the entry-level jobs you are going find are going to be unpaid. If you don’t have a lot of experience/post-secondary schooling, they presume that you will take the job without payment, seeing as you need what to put on your resume. Apart from minimum-wage jobs with little opportunity for advancement and/or no resume value, it’s tough to find good, entry level, paying jobs.
(The most annoying is when they expect applicants for an unpaid internship to have experience in the field–can’t even TELL you how many times I have encountered this. I don’t get it at all. :/)
Vogue, i don’t know if this is realistic but maybe you could move to NY. there are many oot town girls who share apartments so the rent would be relatively cheap. You can get assistant jobs in preschools relatively easily and they pay although not very much. There are a few special ed/regular ed programs done by frum places through colleges and they make possible to graduate much sooner.
If this has happened to you frequently, it seems that when you arrange the interview, you should ask up front if it’s a paid position.
Everyone wants to work for a “Jewish” place so the owners can afford to pay less(Supply and demand) and it seems many are unwilling to work in a regular place.
The demand is much greater than the supply.
Apply for a job at a regular place. They will treat your normal likely pay you regular salaries and while there is always demand, it is a lot less than a Hemish place.
First of all good luck. I remember about 3 down turns ago when I was looking for my first job, it took a long time (and the job I ended up getting was lousy)
Second figure out what you want to do/be and make a plan. Don’t just send out thousands of Resumes and hope one of them hits. It might work but the odds are against you. What you want to do is network. Figure out where the people you want to work with meetup and go there. (meetup.com is your friend here) Get to know them, sooner or later with luck someone will know someone who needs whatever it is you can do.
Yea, its not easy at first but its the way it is. And be working on new skills constantly!
if you are interested in moving to philly area – TA of philadelphia is looking for preschool assistants. There are some single teachers that you may be able to live with.Hatzlacha
If your network is keeping you trapped in volunteer positions, it sounds like you need a better network 🙂
Do you have access to a state Department of Labor office (you can probably even search online) or a community college guidance office?
Maybe you can walk into local establishments and ask if they’re hiring?
The Labor Department or college office should help you – that’s lot better than just looking online at Monster or something.
Are there any frum businesses (not chessed orgs!) in your area, where Shabbos won’t be an issue? Alternately, maybe you can look for an office job in a non-frum setting, where it’s 9-5 Monday through Friday? Most places should accommodate leaving a little early winter Fridays if you explain how you’re happy to come in early or stay late to make up the time. Maybe a medical office?
As an aside, what kind of tax forms were you asked to fill out before getting an offer with details? Don’t provide your social security number. If you’re applying at a major corporation where they want to run a background check that’s one thing but by that point you’ll know how much they’re paying.
Hatzlacha rabbah!
Vogue: How about Chicago. There’s TI- a frum college for girls only. You can dorm there as well. You can also find part time jobs here as a start – as a teacher’s assistant. You can also put your name on a substitute list. Hatzlacha Rabba.
Why don’t you look for a position as an assistant in a school that pays fair wages and rent an apartment with some other girls. Look for a community that has shidduch prospects, or is not to far from the large communities. You will make some money and gain experience. If you en joy teaching you might take courses so that you can move up to a full teaching position when you are ready to.
There are many people who make a great parnasa working for online companies… and then it doesn’t matter where you live. A popular one is medical billing. You may find an online course for an online job that you are interest in, and then you can make a decent living at home. And maybe then go to school to become a preschool teacher, when you have the online job and don’t have to move anywhere to support yourself.
Where are you located? Sounds like Overland Park, but there could be another shul like that in the Midwest.
You need a Bachelors degree. As an alternative, while going for your degree, maybe get a CNA, or a Pharmacy Technician credential to make a few dollars and put yourself through school.
No one will hire you to work in a preschool without an interview but maybe you can skype an interview and they can check your references. Do you have anyone in a city with a bigger frum community who can help set you up?
Vogue, have you tried the Agudah or OU? Both offer career counseling, as far as I know. I think Young Israel might have something, also.
Do you have contacts in NY who could help you get at least enough job leads that it would be worth doing a pilot trip? Maybe friens from seminary? There are definitely a lot more options there – both in terms of jobs and of community – than it seems there are in your location. You might also be able to find a family who would give you room and board in exchange for household help and/or help with the kids.
I wish I could help you with more specifics. May Hashem send you brachah and hatzlachah in everything you do!
I am curious, because I know a lot of the YCT musmachim.
Without a BA you are going to find it harder. In general there is a direct correlation between level of education and ability to find work, and the quality of that work.
You might want to start as a Virtual Assistant. You can probably charge $30/hr for that once you get going and if you can find a few good clients it will keep you going quite well. You will just need a phone and a computer.
Yea, you never want to try to lowball price, because there is someone out there who will do it for $2/hr. You can’t do that. You can however compete on quality and the like. I tried doing something similar years ago and it went no where.
I won’t say it will be easy, but it is possible. Tip, go find the podcast “The Freelancer’s Show” and listen to that. It might have some good stuff for you. I actually know the guy who runs it.
You should get some vocational training, whether as a Nurse’s Assistant, or Home Health Aide, or just something where the employment is steady. Use your earnings from that to get working on a degree.
Get married perhaps? You won’t be able to charge for babysitting though
Get in touch with a Schadchan, go on small “dating” trips.
Mmm, your husband should support you…
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