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April 24, 2025 5:58 pm at 5:58 pm #2391703SQUARE_ROOTParticipant
Rabbi Lazer Brody was born into a Secular Jewish family.
He became a Baal Teshuvah during his time in the Israeli Army.
He became a Breslov Chasid and a Rosh HaYeshivah and kiruv activist.
His children are all Chareidi, and all of them served in, or serve in
the Israeli Army, except for one of his sons, who became a Rosh HaYeshivah.May 1, 2025 2:33 pm at 2:33 pm #2393810SQUARE_ROOTParticipantRabbi Yisroel Meir Lau (Chief Ashkenazic Rabbi
of Israel from 1993 CE to 2003 CE) said this:
_________________________________________________“Over the years I have had the very special opportunity
to pray near some of the greatest rabbis
on the holiest night of the year, Yom Kippur.I have prayed near Rabbi Shlomo Zalman Auerbach and Rabbi Leizer Shach.
I saw and heard them cry, shedding copious tears
as they recited the Ashamnu and Al Cheit prayers.And I saw them cry when they heard that our soldiers had been killed.”
SOURCE: At the Maggid’s Seder (commentary on
“this is the bread of affliction”, page 92) by Rabbi Paysach J. Krohn,
year 2020 CE, ArtScroll Mesorah Publications,
ISBN-10: 1422625753 ISBN-13: 978-1422625750
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PERSONAL COMMENT:Most of those soldiers who died were NEVER religious and NEVER Shomer Shabbat.
Yet Rabbi Shlomo Zalman Auerbach and Rabbi Leizer Shach CRIED
when they heard that “OUR soldiers” had been killed.Notice that Rabbi Paysach J. Krohn refers to them as “OUR soldiers”,
even though they were never religious, and even though they were never
Shomer Shabbat, and even though they took orders from
Secular/Chiloni commanders and a Secular Jewish State.Rabbi Shlomo Zalman Auerbach and Rabbi Leizer Shach CRIED
when they heard that “OUR soldiers” had been killed.Why do the Chareidi anti-Zionists not cry when they
hear that “OUR soldiers” have been killed?May 2, 2025 12:18 pm at 12:18 pm #2394437somejewiknowParticipant@square_root, you asked:
Why do the Chareidi anti-Zionists not cry when they
hear that “OUR soldiers” have been killed?We jews have been crying over the deaths of heretical Jews long before these evil men men became soldiers.
Regarding your Artscroll quotes, I don’t see any chidush that Rav Aurbach ztz”l cried over the deaths of “Jewish” American soldiers like earlier gedolim cried over the deaths of “Jewish” cantonist soldiers, “Jewish” polish soldiers, and “Jewish” kapos in the nazi ghettos and camps.
May 4, 2025 3:17 am at 3:17 am #2394618SQUARE_ROOTParticipantsomejewiknow said:
“We Jews have been crying over the deaths of heretical Jews
long before these evil men men became soldiers. ”_________________________________________________________________
MY RESPONSE:Secular Jews in Israel are NOT “heretical” — they are Tinok SheNishba — they know nothing,
or they do not know enough to be considered “heretical”.Without these so-called “evil men who became soldiers”,
all of the Yeshivahs in Israel would be destroyed,
and all of their teachers and students would be brutally murdered.You should have gratitude to the people who protect your lives:
The soldiers of the Israeli Army. Thank them. Praise them.somejewiknow, *** YOU *** are the evil man, because
of your relentless HATE against your fellow Jews,
when you should have gratitude and Ahavat Yisrael.Last but not least, I want you to PROVE your claim,
that Gedolim cried over the deaths of Jewish
kapos in the Nazi ghettos and camps.May 4, 2025 3:17 am at 3:17 am #2394620Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantSome jew, how are american soldiers, cantonists and jews in the polish army heretical? But you are right that r Auerbach continues the tradition of rabbis of previous generations in their ahavas Israel. I am not sure why you refuse to follow.
May 5, 2025 11:18 am at 11:18 am #2395137somejewiknowParticipantI was responding to the comment that said “Most of those soldiers who died were NEVER religious and NEVER Shomer Shabbat.”, so those Jews are by definition heretics (even if tinok sh’nishbu).
Anyone who is not part of “klal yisroel”, like a michalel shabbos, kosher Jews are obligated to hate (avos d’r”nusen, quoted in multiple places l’halacha including sefer chofetz chaim) and loving rashaim is itself an avaira and a p’gam in “ahavas yisroel”.
If a rusha, chas v’shalom, dies without doing tshiva, we see in Gemara Sanhedrin that Hashem is pained.
May 5, 2025 8:36 pm at 8:36 pm #2395581Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipant> those Jews are by definition heretics (even if tinok sh’nishbu).
you need to read up on yor chofetz chaim and rambam. Join daf yomi as this discussion is coming up in Shevuos 5 … tinok sh’nishbu is NOT heretic and is NOT to be obligated to be hated. You should like Yoav run to your cheder teacher and slain him in case he taught you wrong.
In case of the soldiers mentioned here – recruited into Russian army – were often the poor and orphans – often using questionable methods protecting “more observant” Jews (guilty of violating mitzvos related to orphans and poor), and thus having less chances of being observant. More “regular” Jews were recruited into the democratic Polish army, but still even if they were “regular” Jews (that is observant when in the community), their observance decreased when in the goyishe army… Steipler, for example, was conscripted into the Russian army and was mesiros nefesh for keeping mitzvos but not everyone was.
There is a sheila of such soldiers addressed to Chofetz Chaim (yes, they asked shailos) about eating non-kosher meat. His response was – you are allowed to eat the meat but not such the bones (i.e. not to enjoy it).
Another story I heard is from R Berel Wein – during his father’s class a goyishe/uneducated dressed person came into beis midrash. Rav’s father interrupted the class and got up to shake the man’s hand. He later eplained to the surprised Berel that this was a kantonist who went thru 25 years of Russian army, is very much an ignoramus and not a baal middos, but he came back to the Jewish community and deserves a lot of respect.
May 6, 2025 2:08 pm at 2:08 pm #2395612SQUARE_ROOTParticipantSome Jew I Know said:
“….those Jews are by definition heretics (even if tinok sh’nishbu).”
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MY RESPONSE:Hearing his criticisms of Zionism, someone once told him
[Rabbi Shraga Feivel Mendlowitz],
“I too hate the Zionists. They should be cursed.”“Chas v’chalilah (Heaven forbid)!”
Reb Shraga Feivel [Mendlowitz] interjected.“To the contrary: They should be blessed,
along with all those who are building up our Holy Land.
I only pray that they observe mitzvos.But chalilah to curse or hate them.
They are tinokos shenish’bu
(people who never received a Jewish education and so were led astray).”SOURCE: Reb Shraga Feivel: the life and times of Rabbi Shraga Feivel Mendlowitz,
the architect of Torah in America (chapter 16, page 228) by Yonoson Rosenblum
for Artscroll / Mesorah, year 2001 CE, based on Aharon Sorasky’s Shelucha DeRachmana,
ISBNs: 157819797X, 9781578197972, 1578197961, 9781578197965_________________________________________________________________
PERSONAL COMMENT:Please DO NOT LISTEN to Rabbi Shraga Feivel Mendlowitz,
just because he was the founder of Torah U’Mesorah.Please DO NOT LISTEN to Rabbi Shraga Feivel Mendlowitz,
just because he was principal of Yeshiva Torah Vodaas,
and taught there for 25 years.Please DO NOT LISTEN to Rabbi Shraga Feivel Mendlowitz,
just because he was known as
“the premier architect of Torah in American history.”
_________________________________________________________________PS: If you doubt that my quote is accurate,
then I invite you to find a copy of the book that I mentioned,
and turn to the chapter number and page number that I mentioned.You will then see with your own eyes that my quote is 100% accurate.
May 7, 2025 10:45 am at 10:45 am #2396084SQUARE_ROOTParticipantThis article is from VINNEWS dot com:
Shmili Yekater, a 21-year-old from Bnei Brak who
previously served as a food critic on I24 news,
enlisted yesterday in the Chashmonaim Brigade
after serving 12 days in military prison.“In the past, I used to say, ‘We’ll die before we enlist,’ Yekater said.
“But when the war started, I wanted to contribute,
and I realized that in order to enlist, I had to go to prison.
It was the first time I cried on Memorial Day
— the prison prepared me for the army.”In a post shared on Instagram, Shmili opened up about his feelings:
“Today it happened.
After an unusual journey, mistakes I chose to correct,
and a difficult period that also included imprisonment
— I officially enlisted in the IDF today.”He continued: “It’s not something to take for granted.
I’m proud to join the Chashmonaim Brigade,
proud to wear the IDF uniform, proud to serve my country.
Days of hardship made me stronger — and this is just the beginning.”SOURCE: article titled: “After Sitting In Jail For Desertion,
Charedi Food Critic Enlists In Chashmonaim Brigade”
by Yehuda Dov 2025 May 6 for VINNEWS (dot) comFULL DISCLOSURE:
I did NOT write any part of this article shown above.
I simply copied it from the VIN NEWS web site.May 7, 2025 6:04 pm at 6:04 pm #2396511yankel berelParticipantThink its time for square root to stop his propaganda that haredi youth should enlist, going AGAINST the clear directives of gdolei yisrael.
May 8, 2025 12:40 pm at 12:40 pm #2396753SQUARE_ROOTParticipantYankel Berel:
That article was copied from VIN NEWS, which is a Chareidi publication.
If you do not like that article, then complain to VIN NEWS, not to me.
May 8, 2025 7:54 pm at 7:54 pm #2396933yankel berelParticipant@square
It’s not me who doesn’t like it.
Its gdolei yisrael who don’t like it.
They don’t like it.
They don’t like to the writers.
And the copiers.
So the complaints are at the right address.
.May 10, 2025 9:36 pm at 9:36 pm #2396979Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantyankel > Its gdolei yisrael who don’t like it.
I think you mean to say that the rabbis you follow do not agree with the person in the article. Not that they “do nor like the article” that seemingly simply reported facts.
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